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Hi all, 

I recently abandoned Illustrator to use Affinity Designer on a Macbook Pro. When I use the MOVE tool to select multiple objects, I see that only 249 objects maximu will be highlighted with blue outlines. If I select 250 or more objects, and the outlines of individual objects no longer show up, which is a real pain. I want to visualize which objects I have selected.

Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks!

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Welcome to the forums.
If this is a limitation of the software then it’s unlikely that a workaround/fix exists.
If this can be replicated and proved to be a limitation then submitting a feature request may be the only thing you can do.

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If there is really an object limit, this was important information. You might be able to work around this by seeing if Layer > Geometry > Merge Curves can be done without destroying anything (if you have same fill and outline attributes applied to all these objects, it hopefully does not). Though I am not sure if "Curves" object is actually counted as a single object or including all constituent objects. It this works, you could then separate the curves if needed after having done what is needed.

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27 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

I am not sure if "Curves" object is actually counted as a single object or including all constituent objects.

It is one object, regardless of quantity of separate paths inside it. For example, merge an array of 400 ellipses into one Curves object, then array 400 of these Curves objects. When 249 Curves objects are selected, all 99600 elliptical paths inside these objects are outlined.

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Further the object count popup doesn't count any grouped objects.


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42 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Further the object count popup doesn't count any grouped objects.

Yes, grouping then would be the safest way to work around this (I noticed that objects within a compound will also count as one object). Only that without a Select Same tool it might be a bit of a pain to create easily meaningful groups. 

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13 hours ago, dibasic said:

I want to visualize which objects I have selected.

Switch to the Pencil Tool after having used the Move Tool to select more that 249 objects


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4 hours ago, carl123 said:

Switch to the Pencil Tool after having used the Move Tool to select more that 249 objects

So for those of us too lazy to create a document with more that 249 objects, would one of you more industrious folk attach a file like that so we can try this for ourselves? 😁


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22 minutes ago, R C-R said:

So for those of us too lazy to create a document with more that 249 objects, would one of you more industrious folk attach a file like that so we can try this for ourselves? 😁

Takes less than one minute to create such a document. It will benefit your mind to think how you might do it and try, instead of wait for someone else.

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14 minutes ago, anon2 said:

Takes less than one minute to create such a document. It will benefit your mind to think how you might do it and try, instead of wait for someone else.

I suspect you do not fully appreciate the concept of "lazy" ... 😀


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13 minutes ago, R C-R said:

I suspect you do not fully appreciate the concept of "lazy" ... 😀

For me myself I would have to work much harder to become lazy. Someday...


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I created a merged curve with 280 separate objects and all are showing outlined in blue.  No groups just a merged layer.

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5 minutes ago, Gear maker said:

No groups just a merged layer.

Yes, outlines are not shown for grouped child objects but are shown for ones in a compound object or when merged so if each individual object needs to be shown while transforming it seems that either operation needs to be performed (changing to the Node Tool would allow checking afftected objects and selecting some more, if needed, but the Move tool needs to be reselected to do transformation via the Transform Panel or the mouse, if that is what is needed; Nudge-based transformation would be possible also without reselecting the Move Tool). 

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21 hours ago, dibasic said:

When I use the MOVE tool to select multiple objects, I see that only 249 objects maximu will be highlighted with blue outlines.

2 hours ago, Gear maker said:

280 separate objects and all are showing outlined in blue.

Gear maker, the point/issue/bug is the highlight during your drag-selection. There I get the limit of 249, too:

While there is no issue to show 1092 curve + curves as being selected with Move and even with Node Tool (where the blue highlights have to get rendered, too, and additionally have to create the handles:

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Perhaps it was not clear enough in OP's screenshot, but this was meant:

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There is really no proper workaround, as if text objects are selected, as here, merging the objects would convert text to curves, and creating a compound would make them invisible unless using outline view mode. So switching temporarily to Node Tool would at least allow seeing what is selected and make additional selections. 

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I posted a bug report in mac Designer

 


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Hmm, Mac only problem?
I was able to select more than 300 objects that's not grouped or merged on Windows.

Edit: happened on Windows as well.

 

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2 hours ago, thomaso said:

I posted a bug report in mac Designer

It applies to Windows, too, and at least on Windows it is not dependent on the way the selection is made (dragging or one by one). It is a static error that happens no matter what kinds of objects have been selected, and shows without any mouse activity (e.g. drag selection) going on. It is just that for many objects the blue outline cannot be as clearly discerned as it can for text objects, shown in my screenshot. So there is no way on Windows to have more than 249 objects shown individually to be selected (displaying the blue outline around the object), when the Move Tool is active. The outlines show if you switch to some other tool, like the Node Tool or Pencil Tool, etc., but disappear as soon as the Move tool is reselected. The situation you describe ("While there is no issue to show 1092 curve + curves as being selected with Move [tool]") cannot be reproduced on Windows.

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   > not dependent on the way the selection is made (dragging or one by one)

Indeed, I was not precise when saying drag-select but the video shows also click-select at its end.

 
> The situation you describe ("While there is no issue to show 1092 curve + curves as being selected with Move [tool]") cannot be reproduced on Windows.

I differed between becoming selected and being selected (maybe my language misinterpreting?) to make clear that more objects can be selected. Your screenshot above says "250 selected" and indicates it with the rectangle with handles. So I assume also in Windows you can have more than 249 object selected, either with move or with node to tool, right?

 

 


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5 minutes ago, thomaso said:

So I assume also in Windows you can have more than 249 object selected, either with move or with node to tool, right?

You can probably select any number at all, but it is a question of SHOWING the selection using the blue outline around the individual objects being selected. The max on Windows is 249, no matter what kind of object is selected. If you have 250 (or any larger number), you can only see the selection box (that is, the main selection rectangle with handles) around the objects but you can no longer see which individual objects are selected, as long as the Move tool is used. If you switch to e.g. Pencil tool, you can.

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Btw, switching to the Fill Tool temporarily is the best work around as this way the nodes are not shown but you still get the blue outlines... EDIT: And you can also continue selecting and deselecting with the Fill Tool.

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