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Hi,

Leading, which is set in text style, can't be changed localy with "Paragraph > Spacing".

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Often issues that are reported where leading can't be changed are related to either the Baseline Grid being active, or a Leading Override being specified in the Character panel.

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2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Often issues that are reported where leading can't be changed are related to either the Baseline Grid being active, or a Leading Override being specified in the Character panel.

Character or Paragraph Panel?

Where I can find leading override?

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33 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

Character or Paragraph Panel?

Where I can find leading override?

Character panel:

image.png.189302c02c6908a2e61002e93898c430.png

Note that mine shows with ( ) around it, which means it is a default value. If you have anything without those parentheses, it was set specifically and overrides the defaults.

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3 hours ago, Gabe said:

I can't replicate this here:

  1. Open the .afpub file (in this attachment);
  2. Go to page 8;
  3. Select any red text pointed with arrows;
  4. Edit the style;
  5. Try to change the "space before".

It works only if you right click on the paragraph style and select "Apply to the paragraphs". And only on that one. Also, notice, that only first red paragraph is left aligned to "0" and the other three have the "left indent" set to "5".

spacing.png

Heroj_(Publisher).afpub

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7 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Character panel:

image.png.189302c02c6908a2e61002e93898c430.png

Note that mine shows with ( ) around it, which means it is a default value. If you have anything without those parentheses, it was set specifically and overrides the defaults.

In mine paragraph style under character settings, I can enter any numeric value, but I can't fix it to "Auto".

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6 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

In mine paragraph style under character settings, I can enter any numeric value, but I can't fix it to "Auto".

I would set it to [No Change]. I'm not sure what Auto would do, but [No Change] is the default value.

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2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I would set it to [No Change]. I'm not sure what Auto would do, but [No Change] is the default value.

It still doesn't work.

I don't know what is the purpose of "No change" when it must have a numeric value, or "Auto".

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5 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

I don't know what is the purpose of "No change" when it must have a numeric value, or "Auto".

"No Change" says "inherit from the parent style, whatever that is", and is used to ensure that if changes are made to the parent style they apply automatically to any child styles. If a specific value is entered, then it applies even if the parent is changed, which is usually not what I would want.

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2 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

It dtill doesn't work.

Hello @Petar Petrenko,

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that you have overrides in all of your styles.

Please have a look at the short video. It may shed some light at why things don't work as you 'd expect.

I think you need to fix your styles first before trying to create the table of contents because as you'll notice once you delete the overrides the TOC entry disappears.

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16 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

In mine paragraph style under character settings, I can enter any numeric value, but I can't fix it to "Auto".

Choosing "Auto" in the Character panel sets the override to be identical to whatever leading is specified in the Paragraph panel for that paragraph -- IOW, no override. It won't display as "Auto." Instead, the value will be enclosed in parentheses to indicate it is automatically using the paragraph value.

You can also set it to auto/no override by either deleting whatever is in the leading override field & tabbing to another filed or replacing whatever is there with "()" -- just a pair of opening & closing parentheses with nothing between them.

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4 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Choosing "Auto" in the Character panel sets the override to be identical to whatever leading is specified in the Paragraph panel for that paragraph -- IOW, no override. It won't display as "Auto." Instead, the value will be enclosed in parentheses to indicate it is automatically using the paragraph value.

You can also set it to auto/no override by either deleting whatever is in the leading override field & tabbing to another filed or replacing whatever is there with "()" -- just a pair of opening & closing parentheses with nothing between them.

Thanks, R C-R. But, please, write a little bit louder, I can't hear you very nice because of the mask on your face. :)

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