Fotographer Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Anyone know where I can buy a general font pack for commercial use that can be used for tshirt and cups and all that stuff for resale? Basically I looking to buy the commercial lincense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Take a look at www.softmaker.com -- they have two large packages of decent quality, even some classics in the selection. Alfred and Fotographer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotographer Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 Jens your answer was so helpful. Now I understand the copyright of text. I would like to know if you know of any clipart packs or texture packs that I can buy with a professional license? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy05 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Though probably unpopular in these fora, Adobe Fonts are professional and come with a a "worry free" licence for unlimited, world-wide commercial use. But there are quite a lot of alternatives. I. e. Fontspring By "worry free" I mean you can just use the fonts for your projects, without having to worry about the licenses' limitations at all. A problem, which lots of (even professional) creators might not know of, is that some fonts might be allowed for "commercial use", but also limit amount of items you could sell with that font used (books, mugs, t-shirts etc.). Some fonts charge extra, if you exceed those limits. Fotographer 1 Quote »A designer's job is to improve the general quality of life. In fact, it's the only reason for our existence.«Paul Rand (1914-1996) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 You might also find this post in the Resources section useful: Fotographer and Alfred 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotographer Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 Walt thanks, but I was looking for something that I can buy. I can't in good conscious start doing graphic designer work and expect to be paid if I don't even pay for the tools that I use while doing projects. So I am not looking for free fonts, cliparts, or textures. I rather just save and spend the money to buy the license and support all the text and type artists for their wonderful work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy05 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 4 hours ago, walt.farrell said: You might also find this post in the Resources section useful: Yeah, that's the problem, as i. e. the "Euphorigenic" font is free for commercial use according to the website's description. But if you read the license which is in the ZIP file you download, there are paragraphs like Quote "Embedding of the Fonts in documents (e.g. PDF files) is permitted for viewing and printing, but not for editing. If someone at a remote location wants to edit a document which contains embedded Fonts, they must purchase their own license." So, theoretically, you cannot give a flyer design to your client with the font embedded to it. In 99.99% of all cases, no-one will care. But the remaining 0.01% could hit you and could get more expensive than buying a font with a license which covers your purpose completely. Fotographer 1 Quote »A designer's job is to improve the general quality of life. In fact, it's the only reason for our existence.«Paul Rand (1914-1996) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Andy05 said: Yeah, that's the problem, as i. e. the "Euphorigenic" font is free for commercial use according to the website's description. But if you read the license which is in the ZIP file you download, there are paragraphs like So, theoretically, you cannot give a flyer design to your client with the font embedded to it. In 99.99% of all cases, no-one will care. But the remaining 0.01% could hit you and could get more expensive than buying a font with a license which covers your purpose completely. Your reading/understanding of the clause you quoted is incorrect. You absolutely can send pdfs with the font embedded in it. At least if what you are saying the license states is represented properly. If there is a clause in that license file that states certain uses are not covered, you should have actually quoted it. It is the exact (practical) terms as Adobe fonts. One is also not permitted to distribute Adobe or Adobe licensed fonts. But pfds are fine. Fotographer and Mithferion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Fotographer said: Walt thanks, but I was looking for something that I can buy. I can't in good conscious start doing graphic designer work and expect to be paid if I don't even pay for the tools that I use while doing projects. So I am not looking for free fonts, cliparts, or textures. I rather just save and spend the money to buy the license and support all the text and type artists for their wonderful work. The Licensing allows for commercial work. Many of those Fonts are made by professional studios and designers. Best regards! Fotographer 1 Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeW said: If there is a clause in that license file that states certain uses are not covered, you should have actually quoted it. He did quote it Quote 2.4: Embedding of the Fonts in documents (e.g. PDF files) is permitted for viewing and printing, but not for editing. If someone at a remote location wants to edit a document which contains embedded Fonts, they must purchase their own license. Andy05 and Fotographer 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy05 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, MikeW said: Your reading/understanding of the clause you quoted is incorrect. You absolutely can send pdfs with the font embedded in it. At least if what you are saying the license states is represented properly. If there is a clause in that license file that states certain uses are not covered, you should have actually quoted it. It is the exact (practical) terms as Adobe fonts. One is also not permitted to distribute Adobe or Adobe licensed fonts. But pfds are fine. As Walt said, I quoted the relevant part. If your client edits the pdf—or gives it to a different designer for editing, it's not covered by the license. Also, "copyright trolling" is a thing nowadays. Unfortunately. Using "free fonts" (or photos/graphics!) for commercial works could become a problem. It's not very likely that you'll be a victim of that, but it's a problem people should be aware of nonetheless. Fotographer 1 Quote »A designer's job is to improve the general quality of life. In fact, it's the only reason for our existence.«Paul Rand (1914-1996) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: He did quote it It wasn't there when I did my quote. walt.farrell and Fotographer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, Andy05 said: As Walt said, I quoted the relevant part. If your client edits the pdf—or gives it to a different designer for editing, it's not covered by the license. Also, "copyright trolling" is a thing nowadays. Unfortunately. Using "free fonts" (or photos/graphics!) for commercial works could become a problem. It's not very likely that you'll be a victim of that, but it's a problem people should be aware of nonetheless. That clause is no different than Adobe fonts whether embedded in a pdf nor if a file is packaged. The person either editing a pdf or opening a, say, ID packaged file. Fotographer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotographer Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 Hmm... this is turning into an interesting topic! "grabs popcorn and wonders if he bought the popcorn or just a license to eat the popcorn?" PaulEC and MikeW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneMule Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Bonjour à tous https://www.fontshop.com/ https://www.linotype.com/ cordialement Fotographer 1 Quote Toujours pas !Windows 10 Pro 21H2 - Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz - 16 Gb Ram - GeForce GT 650M - Intel HD 4000 Affinity Photo | Affinity Designer | Affinity Publisher | 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 If it’s a Free Font, anyone can install it and then make the required changes to the file, so that would cover the terms of the License. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mithferion said: If it’s a Free Font, anyone can install it and then make the required changes to the file, so that would cover the terms of the License. Yes, they could. Assuming, of course, they know where to get it, and they know that they need to get it. They won't know that unless you provide a copy of the font license along with your work product. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy05 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Well, a friend of mine is an attorney specialised in copyright. He's making money because of people don't know about what the licenses are covering. "Free fonts/images" are a goldmine for copyright trolling, believe me. As the vast majority of users of such free stuff usually don't care for licenses at all. I can only advise everyone to read the licenses of those free materials used in commercial projects. It's less lately, but I even found fonts on "reliable free font pages", which were original Mototype or ITC fonts which just got uploaded by some random users. Illegally, yes. Yet you could be held responsible for using them. 11 hours ago, MikeW said: That clause is no different than Adobe fonts whether embedded in a pdf nor if a file is packaged. The person either editing a pdf or opening a, say, ID packaged file. The Adobe license for desktop publishing explicitly permitted embedding fonts as a subset with only the glyphs needed for the document when I last used Adobe's fonts (it's a while ago, I have to admit). Quote »A designer's job is to improve the general quality of life. In fact, it's the only reason for our existence.«Paul Rand (1914-1996) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneMule Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bonjour à tous Les polices de caractères sont soumises à licence et sont pour une utilisation individuelle. Effectivement certains sites proposent des polices soit disant libres mais soumises à des restrictions d'utilisation : personnelle ou commerciale. Depuis longtemps, il y a un bruit de la part des éditeurs de polices sur le fait que certaines personnes, utilisant des applications comme fontographer, copie des polices, change le nom et les diffuses comme étant le créateur de cette "nouvelle" police. Cette situation n'a pas finie de durer ! ***** Hello to all Fonts are licensed and are for individual use. Indeed some sites offer so-called free fonts but subject to restrictions of use: personal or commercial. For a long time, there has been a rumour on the part of font editors that some people, using applications like fontographer, copying fonts, change the name and diffuses as being the creator of this "new" font. This situation has not ended! Quote Toujours pas !Windows 10 Pro 21H2 - Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz - 16 Gb Ram - GeForce GT 650M - Intel HD 4000 Affinity Photo | Affinity Designer | Affinity Publisher | 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy05 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, uneMule said: [...] Fonts are licensed and are for individual use. Indeed some sites offer so-called free fonts but subject to restrictions of use: personal or commercial. [...] Unfortunately, that's what most people believe. It's not valid, tho. There are so many different "commercial" licenses. Even if the website says allowed for commercial use, you might still not use it i. e. for using it for designs on articles you want to sell. There's nothing like "A commercial license" which applies with the same permissions and restrictions when you just mention "ok for commercial use" somewhere on a website. 33 minutes ago, haakoo said: If you got a good fontmanager it will show the license inside the font properties. Yes, and usually for commercial fonts, you can even see the copyright in the OS' font manager already. So a if you grabbed a "free font from Linotype" on one of the free font pages, you should be curious. 😉 Quote »A designer's job is to improve the general quality of life. In fact, it's the only reason for our existence.«Paul Rand (1914-1996) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneMule Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bonjour, Peut-être faut il différencier la visualisation d'une page papier ou web du moment de la conception où effectivement il y a des obligations et des droits de licence. Les contenus, parfois, sont eux-même protégés. Cela n'empêche pas de les lire mais surement pas de les copier. ***** Perhaps it is necessary to differentiate the visualization of a paper or web page from the moment of the design where effectively there are obligations and license rights.Sometimes the content itself is protected. It doesn’t prevent you from reading it, but it certainly doesn’t prevent you from copying it. Quote Toujours pas !Windows 10 Pro 21H2 - Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz - 16 Gb Ram - GeForce GT 650M - Intel HD 4000 Affinity Photo | Affinity Designer | Affinity Publisher | 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotographer Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 😲 This debate is getting good! uneMule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneMule Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Fotographer said: 😲 This debate is getting good! Oui, c'était quoi la question de départ ? ***** Yeah, what was the initial question? 😉 Fotographer 1 Quote Toujours pas !Windows 10 Pro 21H2 - Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz - 16 Gb Ram - GeForce GT 650M - Intel HD 4000 Affinity Photo | Affinity Designer | Affinity Publisher | 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneMule Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Andy05 said: Unfortunately, that's what most people believe. It's not valid, tho. There are so many different "commercial" licenses. Even if the website says allowed for commercial use, you might still not use it i. e. for using it for designs on articles you want to sell. There's nothing like "A commercial license" which applies with the same permissions and restrictions when you just mention "ok for commercial use" somewhere on a website. Bonjour @Andy05je suis confus et pense mettre mal exprimé.Comme tu le dis, il y a un gros tri à faire sur les différents sites.Personnellement j'évite, d'autant que plus d'une fois il y a eu des soucis de traitement de fichier avec des polices récupérés sur ces sites et contenant, in fine, des restrictions d'utilisation bien qu'étant indiqué comme valides.On ne parle pas de l'absence des caractères spéciaux...S'agissant des liens que j'ai donné plus haut, pas de question à se poser, ce sont des sites de fondeurs officiels et que je connais de longue date.Bien cordialement. ***** Hello @Andy05I’m confused and think I’m putting it wrong.As you say, there is a big selection to be made on the different sites.Personally I avoid, especially as more than once there have been problems of file processing with fonts recovered from these sites and containing, in fine, restrictions of use although being indicated as valid.We are not talking about the absence of special characters...As for the links I have given above, no question to ask, these are sites of official founders and that I know for a long time.Very cordially. Fotographer 1 Quote Toujours pas !Windows 10 Pro 21H2 - Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz - 16 Gb Ram - GeForce GT 650M - Intel HD 4000 Affinity Photo | Affinity Designer | Affinity Publisher | 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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