Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I am puzzled about the feature "Justified Left" that does not work for some sentences. This document is the 10th. The first 9 documents show no issue with "Justified Left." Here are two pictures of my 10th document and notice the highlighted sentences showing not justified left. Why is it for this document not for others? Is there anyway I can fix it? Thank you. Quote
Joachim_L Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Show Text Special Characters and you will see that there are soft line breaks (shift + return), so Justify Full will also apply there. Make a hard break (simple return). Wosven 1 Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed
Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 12, 2020 Author Posted May 12, 2020 It didn't work at all. So, what I did to solve it was to reformat in Word document and then placed in Publisher. It worked. I think there is a bug in Publisher that needs to be fixed. Quote
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Can you supply a sample .afpub document that demonstrates the problem? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 12, 2020 Author Posted May 12, 2020 Enclosed and you see the problem sentences in red. LOW-Lesson 10 Test.afpub Quote
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Three Angels Deaf Ministri said: Enclosed and you see the problem sentences in red. Thanks. Justify Left is defined as justifying fully all the lines in a paragraph except the last one. That is distinguished from Justify All, which fully justifies all the lines of the paragraph, even the last one. Your red lines are not the last lines of a paragraph; they are in the middle of a paragraph, because you ended them with a Shift+Enter (Line-break) rather than an Enter. As they are not the last lines of a paragraph, they are justified fully, with the effect that you see. This is correct processing, as I understand justification and Publisher. (And as @Joachim_L suggested.) You need to split them to a separate paragraph, by using Enter in front of them, not Shift+Enter. You will perhaps also need to adjust your settings for the spacing before and/or after paragraphs, if you want it to appear that they are part of the same paragraph. That may be best done by defining a paragraph text style specifically for those lines. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 Thank you. Have you fixed it on your side? I am using a Mac. I cannot get them right. No problem in Adobe Indesign, Pages, and MS Word. Just only Affinity. The red sentences I marked for you are still problematic in the whole document. Quote
Joachim_L Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Attached a (for me) fixed document. Do me a favour: Activate Menu Text -> Show Special Characters, zoom into the first place where justifying was "wrong" and make a screenshot and post it here to see what is going on on your side. Or fix it yourself: Use Panel Find and Replace. For Find click on the triangle near the magnifier and select Special Characters -> Line Break. For Replace with use the triangle and select Special Characters -> Paragraph Break. Click Find and then Replace All. The red marked text end of page 2 and beginning of page 3: The gap are there because you do not use hyphenation (can be activated on the Paragraph panel). LOW-Lesson 10 Test-fix.afpub Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed
Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 Here attached as you requested. Quote
Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 Apparently, I solved the problem myself as you instructed. Special character is helpful. Thank you for your patience with me as a novice of this cool app. But I will come back if I encounter any problems. jmwellborn 1 Quote
Old Bruce Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 You have set yourself up for a world of pain. Everything is one Paragraph Style (Body 1) and you have overridden the formating for different paragraphs instead of choosing different styles for the various paragraphs. Also you have used tabs to indent, nothing wrong with that except you will have more control using Styles. You have used line returns and paragraph returns to create space, this is wrong. Use styles to add space before and or after paragraphs. It will save you a lot of work, change in the text styles panel once and it will propagate through the entire document. I have taken the liberty of making some and applying them to the first couple of pages. You can change the fonts and the spacing in one style and have it automatically applied to the same paragraphs with that style. See the way I have set up the Bible Quote style with an indent on the left and right. I also stripped out the tabs, line returns (Shift + Return) and double Paragraph returns you had used as spacing and replaced those with first line indents and space before and after for the different paragraphs which you had double returns. As an aside I would change the font used from Arial in the Bulk Text Paragraph Style to a serif font just to increase the 'readability'. My opinion only. I would also set up styles for the Questions later on in your document. It seems like a lot of work but it is easier to make one change in one style instead of sorting through the document adding individual tabs and returns to "fix" things. Sans Serif (Arial). Changed LotW Test.afpub Serif (Times). Changed LotW Test 2.afpub jmwellborn 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Three Angels Deaf Ministri Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 You are correct! I have never used Paragraph Style because I have not learned how to use it. For many years since the introduction of Mac SE I have avoided it, even hated it, especially with bullet style. I prefer to have someone with me to teach me how to use it. Thank you for two samples. I agree with you that the indent Bible quote is much better than the original I have created. I will use the sample with Arial font for the whole Bible course which is an easy reading version for the Deaf. That mean I will start all over again by using your sample. I truly appreciate your help! Thank you! Quote
Dennison Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Same challenge. started recently only some paragraphs I've tried the F & R fix but that did not change anything. Here is the screenshot with Special Characters turned on. any suggestions welcome. Dennison Quote
Old Bruce Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Does this help? Not really sure what the problem is. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
walt.farrell Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Good spotting, @Old Bruce. That Line Break character should be responsible for the expanded spacing while justifying that line of the text. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Dennison Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Same challenge. started recently only some paragraphs I've tried the F & R fix but that did not change anything. Here is the screenshot with Special Characters turned on. any suggestions welcome. Dennison Quote
walt.farrell Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dennison said: Same challenge. started recently only some paragraphs I've tried the F & R fix but that did not change anything. Here is the screenshot with Special Characters turned on. any suggestions welcome. Dennison I'm not sure you meant to post that, as it seems to be a duplicate of your earlier post but without the screenshot. In any case, if you remove the Line Feed character it should fix your problem. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Dennison Posted August 6, 2021 Posted August 6, 2021 Thank you. Fixed and lesson learnt. walt.farrell 1 Quote
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