Big Tree Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 I'm a user of affinity Publisher 1.8.2. It is a bit strange that the program does not support "No Hypenation" which can break the word in line. I'm wondering if there is any set up to do this function. I've tried character, paragraphs menus and deselect all hyphenation related section. All did not work. Are there any things I have missed? Quote
firstdefence Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 This is handled in the Paragraph section of text styles, hyphenation can be disabled or you can add a minimum word length. https://affinity.help/publisher/English.lproj/pages/Text/hyphenation.html Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
ashf Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 "Hyphenation" you mean is actual hyphenation that has hyphen symbol? Or just line break in the middle of a words? I don't see hyphens in Japanese/Chinese text but see line breaks in the middle of words. But that's normal in Japanese/Chinese writing. Quote
ashf Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 @firstdefenceI believe hyphenation rules does not work with Asian languages since there's no dictionary for them. Quote
ashf Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 @Big TreeHave you tried to set Hyphenation Language option to "none" on the Character pallet? Also uncheck "Use auto-hyphenation" option on the Paragraph pallet. Quote
firstdefence Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, ashf said: @firstdefenceI believe hyphenation rules does not work with Asian languages since there's no dictionary for them. Totally missed the title 🙄 and the korean ref, another cup of coffee required me thinks. ashf 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
ashf Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 I suppose it's a bug or incompatibility with Korean language. Japanese and Chinese(middle and right) have no hyphenation by default. Lines just break at the end of the text frame. Only Korean isn't shown like that. it rather look like Western language layout but no hyphenation. Probably because only Korean has spaces between clauses. So Affinity isn't recognizing language correctly. Quote
Big Tree Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 Thanks for all reply. As ashf mentioned, Korean does not need any hyphenation in formatting paragraph. I set it "none" to hyphenation, it does not make any difference. Affinity supports spelling and even typography for Korean. Is it rather basic function to support? Any solutions available? Quote
Big Tree Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 1. Publisher seems to recognize Korean as western language. So it does not break words in lines. 2. It does not support any hyphenation since it does not have Korean hyphenation dictionary. So far it is my understating. Is this a easy fix bug? Do I need to report it as bug or any other solutions? Quote
walt.farrell Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, Big Tree said: 1. Publisher seems to recognize Korean as western language. So it does not break words in lines. 2. It does not support any hyphenation since it does not have Korean hyphenation dictionary. So far it is my understating. Is this a easy fix bug? Do I need to report it as bug or any other solutions? I don't think you've said what OS you're using, and Spelling works differently between MacOS and Windows. Are you able to set the spelling language for your text to Korean? You would do that in the Character studio panel, near the bottom, in the Languages section. If you cannot do that, then Publisher does not know what language you're using, and that is not a bug. It would just mean that you need to install the proper Hunspell Korean dictionaries. (Again, how you do that depends on your OS.) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Big Tree Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 I'm using MacOS and I can select Korean in spelling in the Charcter panel in Language section. I also select Korean in Typography. And set hyphenation "none" in Charcter Panel and deselect auto hyphenation in Paragraph panel. But it did not make any changes on the word breaking behavior. I've downloaded Hunspell Korean dictionaries but it only includes spelling dictionaries. no hype-XX files. only KO-Kr.dic/aff. I think Korean does not need hyphenation dictionary though. Quote
walt.farrell Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 If you're able to tell Publisher that your text is Korean, and it is breaking the lines incorrectly (in the middle of words?) then probably you should post in the Bugs forum. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Big Tree Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 It does not break at all as it should. Korean should break letter by letter in any sentence format without any hyphen symbol. Thank you for your advice. I'll try to do that. Quote
ashf Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Big Tree said: It does not break at all as it should. Korean should break letter by letter in any sentence format without any hyphen symbol. Thank you for your advice. I'll try to do that. Yes, as I posted the test result above, only Korean is shown incorrectly even on Windows. Affinity does not have any setting for Asian languages such as spelling or hyphenation and does not have dictionaries. So I assume you should ask Serif to fix the way Korean is shown - the same way as Chinese/Japanese. Big Tree 1 Quote
Big Tree Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ashf said: Yes, as I posted the test result above, only Korean is shown incorrectly even on Windows. Affinity does not have any setting for Asian languages such as spelling or hyphenation and does not have dictionaries. So I assume you should ask Serif to fix the way Korean is shown - the same way as Chinese/Japanese. Quote Thank you! ashf 1 Quote
Jeanman Kim Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Dear Team, First, I would like to briefly and clearly explain the issue at hand. The Korean writing system is composed of alphabets, characters, words, and sentences. Alphabets in Korean consist of consonants and vowels. By combining these consonants and vowels, a character is formed. This is what I refer to as a "character" above. Then, characters are combined to form words. Unlike European languages, many Asian languages, including Korean, split lines based on characters rather than words when wrapping text at the end of a line. The most significant difference between Korean and languages like Japanese or Chinese is that Korean uses spaces between words, whereas Japanese and Chinese do not. This might make Korean text appear somewhat unique. Since Japanese and Chinese wrap text based on characters, I am requesting that Korean text also be handled similarly. Interestingly, this issue might not be well-known unless one is familiar with Korean word processors. For example, Adobe Illustrator has not resolved this issue. However, Adobe InDesign addresses it by leveraging the English hyphenation system, which may seem unconventional to native Korean users. To the best of my knowledge, enabling "auto-hyphen" in the settings resolves the issue, which is why discussions about hyphenation often arise. It seems that InDesign internally inserts hyphens between Korean characters, but these hyphens are not visibly rendered. If this issue is classified as a bug, I believe it can be fixed, and I am not seeking a refund. Especially since I purchased the Affinity V2 Universal License (without any coupons) rather than just a single program, requesting a refund would be somewhat impractical. The price difference between purchasing only two programs and the universal license is negligible. Therefore, I hope this issue can be resolved rather than seeking a refund. Thank you for your attention, and I appreciate your efforts in addressing this matter. Quote
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