Set default zoom to 100% instead of "fit windows size"

[LuBre]

I work with Photo on a daily basis and too often I have to work with small images (200 pixels or less). When opening them in Photo the program automatically zooms them to fit the entire working area, which is useless because I actually don't need that zoom level when I work with small pictures. I think images should always be 100% zoomed (unless they're bigger than your working area). Is it something you're considering already? I know I can Ctrl/Cmd + 1 and set the zoom to 100% but it's one more (useless) action when working with lots of images at the same time. And if you resize the image it goes back to full screen zoom, once again.

Example:

If I load a 100x100 icon into Photo this is how it shows it. I think it should open it at 100% and not zoomed to (almost) fit the entire space. 

[John Rostron]

Or, at least, make this settable as s preference.

John

[LuBre]

That would make sense too. Working with an image that keeps zooming in-and-out while opening/resizing is very very frustrating.

[Pšenda]

You may be interested to know that this has been required for a long time.

 

Alternatively, you can search for other threads.

https://www.google.com/search?q=default+zoom+to+100%+site%3Aforum.affinity.serif.com

[Bobanian]

Just here to agree with the above. Its not annoying enough to make me return to Photoshop, but still pretty damn annoying

[AlainP]

Having a default of 100% when opening an image is fine when it's a small one, but with large images like photographs I still prefer having it to fit the display area like it is right now.

Having to press "Ctrl-1" to make it 100% ... there are much more annoying things in life imo.

[Bobanian]

The point is, this behavior should be a preference in settings. You like it, great. Others don't, so cool, just make it so it can be turned off.

[Pšenda]

3 hours ago, AlainP said:

there are much more annoying things in life imo.

That's right, so why bother him with another unnecessary inconvenience that can be solved in a few minutes.

[AlainP]

3 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

That's right, so why bother him with another unnecessary inconvenience that can be solved in a few minutes.

I don't want to bother anyone... I'm just saying that opening a file at 100% could be a little annoying for someone when your file is very small. But opening a photo file at 100% could be more annoying. And I think Photo is used more for photos and large drawing than for very small pictures.

If this bothers someone... well... too bad.

[Pšenda]

Sorry, but using a simple condition (if the image size is larger than the workspace - use Fit, if it is smaller - use 100%), as most image viewers do, there is no hi-tech technology with which developers should not be able to cope. And the fact that this feature is required repeatedly perhaps clearly indicates, that it is a frequent need of many users.

[AlainP]

Actually if the image is larger than the display area "fit" is automatically used. If it's very small it is zoomed to fit, then "Ctrl-1" brings it back to 100%. I wonder what is the percentage of Photo users who regularly work on such very small pictures.

Still, a selectable option for small image would make everybody happy.  But when I see "...that can be solved in a few minutes..." so easy to say..., you have a WIndows version, a Mac version, an iPad version, and don't forget Designer...

[Pšenda]

2 hours ago, AlainP said:

But when I see "...that can be solved in a few minutes..." so easy to say..., you have a WIndows version, a Mac version, an iPad version, and don't forget Designer...

Yes, but function "if the image size is larger than the workspace - use Fit, if it is smaller - use 100%" is the same at all Affinity applications/platform, and display functions Fit/100% already available for the given Affinity applications/platform (see menu View/Zoom).

[Bobanian]

The way Pšenda describes how it should work is spot-on, and it's not just very small images that are problematic. I work on a 27" iMac, 5k retina, so virtually every web graphic gets zoomed in on opening, resized, or cropped. I'm constantly CMD-1ing. For the record, I love the software and advocate for it whenever I can. But to me, this particular behavior feels poorly considered.

[LuBre]

9 hours ago, AlainP said:

I wonder what is the percentage of Photo users who regularly work on such very small pictures

Almost everyone working on websites/apps will be dealing with medium-to-small images that will not fit the entire working area. Pixel art and pixel-based graphics are very common. Small pieces of images and/or GIF's are usually small too. When you work with these kind of images you're constantly dealing with CTRL+1 to resize them to 100% (original size). I think that having an option to NOT automatically resize them would please everyone.

[HockingHippy]

I just don't want the picture zooming of its own accord.  If I'm trying to do a cut out and it automatically zooms beyond what I need, it's beyond frustrating.  It takes so much more time to do a relatively simple task.  Basically, I want to be able to set it to the zoom level I need to accomplish my task - I don't want to be chasing the picture all around the page.  If that can't be done, I'll probably switch to a graphics program that can.  Lots of really neat bells and whistles with this otherwise but if it can't accomplish something as simple as setting a simple zoom level, I just can't deal with that.  Time is precious.

 

[Pšenda]

40 minutes ago, HockingHippy said:

I just don't want the picture zooming of its own accord.

Since I'm not using version 1.10 yet (too fresh update), I wonder if this option in Preferences doesn't work.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

Since I'm not using version 1.10 yet (too fresh update), I wonder if this option in Preferences doesn't work.

That's only an option in 1.10 on Windows, I think.

[Pšenda]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

That's only an option in 1.10 on Windows, I think.

The description is from the online help, which was always written from a Mac perspective.

But the truth is, that when new versions are released, this is only stated in ADesigner for Windows, and in APublisher for Windows, where a note is even given (Windows). In APhoto, this is probably not even, or just not described. A little chaos 🙂

[pixelstuff]

On 8/10/2021 at 9:42 AM, Pšenda said:

Since I'm not using version 1.10 yet (too fresh update), I wonder if this option in Preferences doesn't work.

I just tested it and it works great as requested by everyone in the previous conversations.

In Affinity Photo 1.10.0.1127, under the Edit > Preferences > General section there is a check box called "Limit initial zoom to a maximum of 100%". 

When checked, if you open a bigger image it will zoom out to fit, but opening a smaller image doesn't zoom past 100%. I think we can consider this feature as added.

[loukash]

2 hours ago, pixelstuff said:

under the Edit > Preferences > General section there is a check box called "Limit initial zoom to a maximum of 100%".

2 hours ago, pixelstuff said:

 I think we can consider this feature as added.

Not on MacOS.

[pixelstuff]

1 hour ago, loukash said:

Not on MacOS.

That is pretty interesting. I wonder why it is missing. I would have figured they were using a central code base for anything not hardware dependent.

Maybe the zoom is GPU assisted and requires the custom GPU code to be updated?

[walt.farrell]

There's a thread somewhere in which one of the Serif staff acknowledged that the new function was missed for Mac, somehow.

[Bobanian]

1.10.1 out today, fix still not on MacOS. 

[walt.farrell]

6 minutes ago, Bobanian said:

1.10.1 out today, fix still not on MacOS. 

Probably because the emphasis for 1.10.1 was to provide a quick fix for a specific set of bugs in 1.10.0 that were causing major failures for many users. The missing zoom enhancement, while annoying, doesn't cause an application failure and isn't anything different from what existed in 1.9.3, which probably makes it less of a priority.