LuBre Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I work with Photo on a daily basis and too often I have to work with small images (200 pixels or less). When opening them in Photo the program automatically zooms them to fit the entire working area, which is useless because I actually don't need that zoom level when I work with small pictures. I think images should always be 100% zoomed (unless they're bigger than your working area). Is it something you're considering already? I know I can Ctrl/Cmd + 1 and set the zoom to 100% but it's one more (useless) action when working with lots of images at the same time. And if you resize the image it goes back to full screen zoom, once again.Example: If I load a 100x100 icon into Photo this is how it shows it. I think it should open it at 100% and not zoomed to (almost) fit the entire space. Bobanian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rostron Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Or, at least, make this settable as s preference. John Frozen Death Knight, ambersand and Bobanian 3 Quote Windows 10, Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Designer 1.10.5 and Publisher 1.10.5 (mainly Photo), now ex-Adobe CC CPU: AMD A6-3670. RAM: 16 GB DDR3 @ 666MHz, Graphics: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuBre Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 That would make sense too. Working with an image that keeps zooming in-and-out while opening/resizing is very very frustrating. Bobanian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 You may be interested to know that this has been required for a long time. Alternatively, you can search for other threads. https://www.google.com/search?q=default+zoom+to+100%+site%3Aforum.affinity.serif.com Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobanian Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just here to agree with the above. Its not annoying enough to make me return to Photoshop, but still pretty damn annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainP Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Having a default of 100% when opening an image is fine when it's a small one, but with large images like photographs I still prefer having it to fit the display area like it is right now. Having to press "Ctrl-1" to make it 100% ... there are much more annoying things in life imo. Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobanian Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 The point is, this behavior should be a preference in settings. You like it, great. Others don't, so cool, just make it so it can be turned off. ambersand and HockingHippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 hours ago, AlainP said: there are much more annoying things in life imo. That's right, so why bother him with another unnecessary inconvenience that can be solved in a few minutes. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainP Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pšenda said: That's right, so why bother him with another unnecessary inconvenience that can be solved in a few minutes. I don't want to bother anyone... I'm just saying that opening a file at 100% could be a little annoying for someone when your file is very small. But opening a photo file at 100% could be more annoying. And I think Photo is used more for photos and large drawing than for very small pictures. If this bothers someone... well... too bad. Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Sorry, but using a simple condition (if the image size is larger than the workspace - use Fit, if it is smaller - use 100%), as most image viewers do, there is no hi-tech technology with which developers should not be able to cope. And the fact that this feature is required repeatedly perhaps clearly indicates, that it is a frequent need of many users. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainP Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Actually if the image is larger than the display area "fit" is automatically used. If it's very small it is zoomed to fit, then "Ctrl-1" brings it back to 100%. I wonder what is the percentage of Photo users who regularly work on such very small pictures. Still, a selectable option for small image would make everybody happy. But when I see "...that can be solved in a few minutes..." so easy to say..., you have a WIndows version, a Mac version, an iPad version, and don't forget Designer... Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, AlainP said: But when I see "...that can be solved in a few minutes..." so easy to say..., you have a WIndows version, a Mac version, an iPad version, and don't forget Designer... Yes, but function "if the image size is larger than the workspace - use Fit, if it is smaller - use 100%" is the same at all Affinity applications/platform, and display functions Fit/100% already available for the given Affinity applications/platform (see menu View/Zoom). Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobanian Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The way Pšenda describes how it should work is spot-on, and it's not just very small images that are problematic. I work on a 27" iMac, 5k retina, so virtually every web graphic gets zoomed in on opening, resized, or cropped. I'm constantly CMD-1ing. For the record, I love the software and advocate for it whenever I can. But to me, this particular behavior feels poorly considered. colindun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuBre Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 9 hours ago, AlainP said: I wonder what is the percentage of Photo users who regularly work on such very small pictures Almost everyone working on websites/apps will be dealing with medium-to-small images that will not fit the entire working area. Pixel art and pixel-based graphics are very common. Small pieces of images and/or GIF's are usually small too. When you work with these kind of images you're constantly dealing with CTRL+1 to resize them to 100% (original size). I think that having an option to NOT automatically resize them would please everyone. colindun and Pšenda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockingHippy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I just don't want the picture zooming of its own accord. If I'm trying to do a cut out and it automatically zooms beyond what I need, it's beyond frustrating. It takes so much more time to do a relatively simple task. Basically, I want to be able to set it to the zoom level I need to accomplish my task - I don't want to be chasing the picture all around the page. If that can't be done, I'll probably switch to a graphics program that can. Lots of really neat bells and whistles with this otherwise but if it can't accomplish something as simple as setting a simple zoom level, I just can't deal with that. Time is precious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 40 minutes ago, HockingHippy said: I just don't want the picture zooming of its own accord. Since I'm not using version 1.10 yet (too fresh update), I wonder if this option in Preferences doesn't work. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Pšenda said: Since I'm not using version 1.10 yet (too fresh update), I wonder if this option in Preferences doesn't work. That's only an option in 1.10 on Windows, I think. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: That's only an option in 1.10 on Windows, I think. The description is from the online help, which was always written from a Mac perspective. But the truth is, that when new versions are released, this is only stated in ADesigner for Windows, and in APublisher for Windows, where a note is even given (Windows). In APhoto, this is probably not even, or just not described. A little chaos 🙂 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelstuff Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 9:42 AM, Pšenda said: Since I'm not using version 1.10 yet (too fresh update), I wonder if this option in Preferences doesn't work. I just tested it and it works great as requested by everyone in the previous conversations. In Affinity Photo 1.10.0.1127, under the Edit > Preferences > General section there is a check box called "Limit initial zoom to a maximum of 100%". When checked, if you open a bigger image it will zoom out to fit, but opening a smaller image doesn't zoom past 100%. I think we can consider this feature as added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 hours ago, pixelstuff said: under the Edit > Preferences > General section there is a check box called "Limit initial zoom to a maximum of 100%". 2 hours ago, pixelstuff said: I think we can consider this feature as added. Not on MacOS. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelstuff Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, loukash said: Not on MacOS. That is pretty interesting. I wonder why it is missing. I would have figured they were using a central code base for anything not hardware dependent. Maybe the zoom is GPU assisted and requires the custom GPU code to be updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 There's a thread somewhere in which one of the Serif staff acknowledged that the new function was missed for Mac, somehow. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobanian Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1.10.1 out today, fix still not on MacOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bobanian said: 1.10.1 out today, fix still not on MacOS. Probably because the emphasis for 1.10.1 was to provide a quick fix for a specific set of bugs in 1.10.0 that were causing major failures for many users. The missing zoom enhancement, while annoying, doesn't cause an application failure and isn't anything different from what existed in 1.9.3, which probably makes it less of a priority. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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