ManiacClown Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I've got a (currently) 180-page book I've been working on. Recently, I've noticed that when I insert or move pages the entire file after that point will usually be broken somehow. Maybe it's just that the text frame for the page numbers has gone to the bottom or the layer for the Master Page is above others. Sometimes if I just Apply Master to a particular page to reapply the Master Pages that'll fix it. However, I just had to go through every odd-numbered page to A) delete a mystery text frame that shouldn't have been there (and wasn't in the Master Page) and B) make sure the page number text frame layer was where it should be in the stack order. Trying to Apply Master to all odd pages or to all pages crashed Publisher every time. It was tedious but I fixed it page by page. Now I'm trying to insert another page and it's happening again. Layers aren't right on some pages, the Master isn't applied correctly on others, and if I try to do a mass Apply Master Publisher crashes. Did my file corrupt somehow such that I need to paste everything into a new one? The attached file is a zoomed-out screenshot of what it does. The very first page (which if you can see is page 84) is pre-insert. 85 is the newly-inserted page. The border has disappeared from what is now 86. The text frame on 87 is now under the picture frame that contains the page border. Trying to Apply Master to 86 and 87 moves the 86→87 text flow to be 86→88. Once again, Apply Master to all pages crashes the program. I'm about at my wit's end with this. Please help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Welcome to the forum, It might be a good idea to duplicate the document and upload a sample section of the .afpub file. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 5 hours ago, firstdefence said: Welcome to the forum, It might be a good idea to duplicate the document and upload a sample section of the .afpub file. "Upload a sample section" how? Delete all the pages in the duplicated file except the ones I'm showing? If so, I just tried to do that and it triggers the glitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 That’s the point, if we can see the glitch, then maybe someone can work out why you get the glitch. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) All right, here are some pages. I had the first couple be the two where it started this time. METAL WORLD diagnosis sample.afpub Edited April 18, 2020 by ManiacClown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 You have the Master A applied to only the Right hand pages. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: You have the Master A applied to only the Right hand pages. Yes, that's the problem. It had been applied to all pages before I inserted a page. This time around, the glitch manifested by removing the Master Page from half the pages (as it's come to do). It also moves the Master Page layer on pages where it's still there above some other things so it hides them. It does that as soon as I insert or move a page. If I don't do that, it's fine and everything appears normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Okay, what you have to do is join/link the text frames on the Master A master page. Then when you add a page you will have to then link the text flow from page 1 to page 2 (the new page) and all will flow naturally after that. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 I think I need to attach a couple more screenshots to better illustrate the problem. In one of these you can see the pages beforehand, which are fine. I used to be able to reorder and insert without this being a problem. In the second image, you see what happens after I insert or move a page. After that point in the file (in the current manifestation of the glitch) the Master disappears from the even-numbered and won't reapply correctly. The layering is off on the odd-numbered pages so that the text frame is at the bottom. Other times this glitch has manifested the even pages are fine and the odd pages are broken, but I could reapply the Master. Sometimes I could reapply it to all even or all odd but now even trying to do that crashes Publisher. The glitch is inconsistent as to how it manifests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Update: I just noticed it's glitching out even in the new file I just made. Just to be sure, I linked the text frames in the master before deleting a page I'd inserted earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'm wondering if, using the smart master pages feature (naming the frames in the master pages with same name), would help or confuse the app more… https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/tutorials/publisher/desktop/video/390003719/ I renamed the frames in the Master pages and reapplied it. It seemsto be more consistent, but once when it linked the main text frame to the page number frame instead of the main text frame of the right page. It shouldn't! That's a bug, but not sure how to reproduce it, since it was not clear whyit happens on this page only. I was able to add single pages here and ther, without problem but once when the other same (left | right) pages when blank because there's another bug: one of the text frame lostit z-order and end up atthe bottom of the page, below the image frame. The eaiest way to correct this with a document like yours, was to go to the Master pages, select the Picture frame of the (left | right) problematic page, move it to the front of the page, andput it back at the bottom of the page. I'm not sure renaming the elements on the master pages helped, but I could add pages without having the bug. We can also see now that master pages are applied by pages or by spread, and it's when applied by pagesthat it seems to occur. METAL_WORLD_diagnosis_sample2.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Wosven said: I'm wondering if, using the smart master pages feature (naming the frames in the master pages with same name), would help or confuse the app more… https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/tutorials/publisher/desktop/video/390003719/ I renamed the frames in the Master pages and reapplied it. It seemsto be more consistent, but once when it linked the main text frame to the page number frame instead of the main text frame of the right page. It shouldn't! That's a bug, but not sure how to reproduce it, since it was not clear whyit happens on this page only. I was able to add single pages here and ther, without problem but once when the other same (left | right) pages when blank because there's another bug: one of the text frame lostit z-order and end up atthe bottom of the page, below the image frame. The eaiest way to correct this with a document like yours, was to go to the Master pages, select the Picture frame of the (left | right) problematic page, move it to the front of the page, andput it back at the bottom of the page. I'll definitely look into the smart master pages. Thanks! As for the Z-order, that's definitely one way the bug manifests. What sucks is having to do it for several dozen pages individually. Is there a way to report this as a bug? Wosven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, ManiacClown said: a way to report this as a bug? Yes, look at the bug reporting section and select your OS: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/ You can refer to this thread adding the link. If you are using the Bêta, report in the Bêta section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacClown Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 Bug reported! Thanks. Wosven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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