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Checking or unchecking ALIGNED, the brush sample follows regardless. 
Unchecked it should remain fixed in sample spot..

Also there is some undesired "flickering" w. PDF images.

Still getting used to it. Still not a smooth ride.

Best regards CS

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Hi SKO,
Welcome to Affinity Forums :)
This is working as intended for me. If unchecked the sample point returns to its original position (the one you picked initially) as soon as you release the left mouse button. So painting a second (third, fourth etc) stroke with the Clone Tool will start exactly from the same initial point you picked rather than keeping the same distance to the mouse cursor after you stop painting a stroke.

I believe the flickering you are referring to is the clone brush preview inside the brush cursor area. If you go to Affinity Photo Preferences, User Interface section and untick Show brush previews does it dissapear? Can you confirm if is this you are talking about?

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But it should also work as a brush and it doesn't.

The cloning point, when unaligned, should stay in place and the brush free to move with mouse or pen activated using only sampled point. Eg.: to transfer texture.

It keeps cloning area with or without alignment. No difference.

 

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51 minutes ago, SKO said:

The cloning point, when unaligned, should stay in place and the brush free to move with mouse or pen activated using only sampled point. Eg.: to transfer texture.

It keeps cloning area with or without alignment. No difference.

The difference is in what happens with multiple strokes.

If not Aligned, each new stroke starts cloning from the original sample point you selected. (That is, when you release the mouse button, the sample point returns to its original location. Your second stroke will copy the same data as the first stroke.)

If Aligned, when you paint your first stroke an offset is established between the start of the brush stroke and the sample point you chose. For each new stroke, the sample point is the same offset from the beginning of the stroke as it was for the first stroke. (That is, the sample point follows the brush, keeping the same offset from the brush as the first stroke.)

Also explained in the Help for the Clone Brush.

There's a tutorial, too, but Aligned vs non-Aligned is not explained there, or if it is I missed it.

I am confused by that tutorial, as the cloning seems to be done in Aligned mode, but to me it seems like it is operating non-aligned. The brush is moved all over the canvas, to different locations, but the cloning always copies the original sample point. @MEB: Can you comment on that, and help unconfuse me?

 

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Well, I have to explain that I've used PS for an eternity, so I'm alse quite stuck in my work habits.  

In PS it does what I intend. Maybe there is another tool that will do what I want the CLONE BRUSH to be doing.

 

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Hi SKO,
Maybe i'm misunderstanding something but as it is, the Clone Tool is working exactly as the Clone Stamp Tool in Photoshop. Can you please record a small clip of what you are doing in Photoshop so i can see what you are referring to please?

@walt.farrell,
There's something wrong in the video. That's not aligned mode however the Aligned checkbox is ticked there. I will pass this to the documentation team. Thanks for spotting it.

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Hi MEB,

I'm embarrassed to say that you're right and I'm wrong, it's been some time and would seem my brain "farted". I'm getting old. 

I had to dig out my old PS and check it out.. I remembered wrong.

My conclusion therefore has to be the tool is "wrong" or lacking a "golden" option... 

Why doesn't it have the option to stay on one and same (brush point) sample, which allows you to brush or paint freely elsewhere (instead of clicking (like dabbing in RL: waste of both energy and battery)?

I was retouching an old photo of a creased poster, these creases and discolourations were just "distracting" enough and it was then I noticed this "missing" or "wrong" option. 

The current way (incl. PS) is to go the long way: select an area, then make a pattern then use clone brush w. pattern...?

That's really many steps for a really simple thing like transferring a colour + texture to a missing area.

Good Friday, thx, best regards.

 

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