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On 4/7/2020 at 11:37 AM, nik78 said:

You should be kidding because no one works that way.

They are all used together and not for one specific purpose.

That should be Affinity's goal (and  it sort of appears to be going that way).

I've been in this business for 35 years. That's the way it's done.

That is the way professionals work.
No one relies on one app as being good for just photos or illustration or anything else.

You go from one to the other all the time.

Solution is :

Affinity Designer should have a "no antialiasing" export option as Illustrator does.

Add bitmap mode to Photo and the problem is gone and you will get a lot more illustrators as customers.

Like I said: should have been there from day one.

YES!

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Well yes, I agree with all that.

An image created in pure black and white - scraperboard, for example, probably needs to be scanned at 2400 dpi at least, on a scanner in bitmap mode, so no greys are picked up at all. It can be converted back to greyscale if necessary, but it isn't really necessary if the publishing software can use the image correctly. It needs photo software to scan and retouch and publishing software to publish it.

I do this a lot. I don't want greys when I scan an ink drawing. I want edges to be as fine and clean as possible, so a high resolution is required. I have to use photoshop, because PS can handle bitmaps and dpi in excess of 400. It was a bit of a shock when I discovered that Affinity pretty much decided that 1 bit and anything above 400dpi was not in their world view. I didn't think to consider that it wouldn't be.

I'm not sure where the idea that 1 bit belongs in an illustration program comes from. But if the software can handle 1 bit and edit it, great. I don't care about the semantics. Just give me the tools.

I also use duotones and tritones a lot, either with true greyscales or with bitmaps, or a combination of the two. Sure you can make a sort of simulation in RGB, but it doesn't really do the job creatively, visually or mechanically. It's a little difficult to export to a couple of spot colour screens out of an RGB file. Or even greyscale separated plates.

It would be lovely if Affinity dropped the idea that there is no need to work above 400 dpi and that greyscale manipulation is old hat, but I'm not holding my breath.

Just sayin'

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Hm. Perhaps it's just me, but I can convert an RGB image into 1-bit in APh, edit it as 1-bit at 1200 ppi, and export it as a genuine 1-bit at 1200 ppi with a few clicks:

The two things I can't do directly and that I would like to have as well is to:

  1. export 1-bit TIFF from Affinity; I need Apple's Preview app to convert the PNG to 1-bit TIFF (without resorting to PS, of course; I'm using PS here just as a proof)
  2. edit 1-bit images directly in APh and save as 1-bit *.afphoto, without having to export it as PNG over and over again

Or am I missing something else y'all need and I currently don't?

Note that the exported PNG or TIFF can be easily placed into Publisher layouts, assigned spot colors, you name it:

 

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It is just you. We others can do only thresholded greyscale document and export it to 1-bit PNG.

There is no 400 dpi limit in Affinity, it is just the ruler adjustment that stops at 400. You can numerically enter quite big numbers.

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2 hours ago, Fixx said:

It is just you. We others can do only thresholded greyscale document and export it to 1-bit PNG.

Are you replying to me?

If so: Well, yes, of course! That's what I've been doing in my example as well. The point is that the data I'm working on effectively behaves as "1-bit" within Affinity, albeit "faked". I am mimicking to be working in the 1-bit domain, and from what I can say by now, I can do everything with it I'd do if working on a 1-bit image in Schmotofopp. Yet the end result is a genuine 1-bit PNG as long as I use the correct export setting.

Hence my request: "edit 1-bit images directly in APh and save as 1-bit *.afphoto, without having to export it as PNG over and over again"

2 hours ago, Fixx said:

There is no 400 dpi limit in Affinity, it is just the ruler adjustment that stops at 400. You can numerically enter quite big numbers.

Exactly. Stuff like this is highly counterintuitive and also very inconsistent across the Affinity apps. Bad UI design.

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On 4/7/2020 at 5:50 PM, walt.farrell said:

But why is it Photo that needs bitmap support?

Maybe because 1-bit does not leave gray artefacts and can be much easily traced by a vector app?

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