Andreas Franke Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 A well known bug in AP is that a selection in AP can not be filtered by the Filter Forge Plugin because AP is handling parameters in a wrong way since AP 1.6. We are now on 1.8 and the bug was not fixed until today! When will it happen? It's a shame!https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=8&TID=15412&MID=150169&sphrase_id=4598896#message150169 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted April 2, 2020 Staff Share Posted April 2, 2020 Hi @Andreas Franke As far as I'm aware, we only send full size layer information to plugins, and not selections. As a workaround, you could make your selection, CTRL + J to duplicate it on a new layer, and apply your FF effect to that new layer. I will move this to feature requests, as it's not a bug, but a missing feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I just tried applying FilterForge to a selected pixel layer (no mask, no pixel selection) and it crashed: Filter Forge 9.0, Affinity Photo 1.8.2, Mac OS 10.13.6, 2010 Mac Pro Curiously, this resulted in crash logs for both Affinity Photo and Filter Forge (I did not have the Filter Forge app open when I tried to start the plugin): Filter Forge_2020-04-02-111704_Mac-Pro.crash Affinity Photo_2020-04-02-111926_Mac-Pro.crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted April 3, 2020 Staff Share Posted April 3, 2020 Was this just a one-off @fde101? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Gabe said: Was this just a one-off @fde101? No, it is repeatable. I just tried it again with a totally different image and get the same thing. EDIT: I ran the update last night so this one was against the released version of 1.8.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rostron Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Filter Forge 9 works OK for me on Windows 10, Photo 1.8.2.620. John Quote Windows 10, Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Designer 1.10.5 and Publisher 1.10.5 (mainly Photo), now ex-Adobe CC CPU: AMD A6-3670. RAM: 16 GB DDR3 @ 666MHz, Graphics: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I am thinking this might be a sandboxing issue as I am using the MAS version of Affinity Photo. Unfortunately, I can no longer check this against the beta now that I have the updated version of the released app installed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted April 3, 2020 Staff Share Posted April 3, 2020 We tried it with the MAS version and was fine for us.... Any chance you can grab the AffinityStore trial version and see if it's fine please? https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/90-day-affinity-trial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 No crash in the trial version. If I make a pixel selection before entering the plugin, the entire layer seems to be sent across, with no obvious effect of the selection itself, but while sending it across without a selection gives me a white background behind the random scribble I put in place to have some content, when there is a pixel selection the background is rendered as transparent. Applying a mask to the layer by dragging a shape onto the thumbnail appears to behave identically to having a pixel selection in place (even without having a pixel selection). A mask layer seems again to do the same - the entire layer comes across with a transparent background instead of a white one, and without the masking applied. If I apply the filter in that state, it seems to work just fine, and the mask is correctly applied to the modified version after it is returned to Affinity Photo. It seems to be only the preview within the filter that is not dealing with the situation well. However, after doing all of this, I went back to the MAS version and again get the crash. I get the crash with or without a pixel selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted April 6, 2020 Staff Share Posted April 6, 2020 Have you Authorised global Preferences > Plugins in your MAS version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 4/6/2020 at 9:37 AM, Gabe said: Have you Authorised global Preferences > Plugins in your MAS version? Thanks, I did miss that, and it fixed the crash problem. The first time I opened it after doing this I had to re-enter my registration information for some reason, but it seems to be working correctly now when there is no selection or mask. When there is one, it shows the entire image in the plugin preview, but actually does mask the selected area as the only part it is being applied to. As far as I can tell, once the Authorize Global is completed, the plugin is working perfectly in the MAS version. It would certainly be nice if the application didn't crash when a user doesn't know to take that authorization step, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted April 8, 2020 Staff Share Posted April 8, 2020 14 hours ago, fde101 said: It would certainly be nice if the application didn't crash when a user doesn't know to take that authorization step, though... This seems to be a regression from 1.7, were Authorise Global was not needed. I've logged it with our developers. fde101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree-standing Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 4/6/2020 at 3:37 PM, Gabe said: Have you Authorised global Preferences > Plugins in your MAS version? do you think this would help with getting AffinityPhoto to recognize Filter Forge? I have the latest versions of both, when I installed FF, I did not get the option about installing it as a plug-in for AP, installed it anyway and then physically added the folder to the plug-ins. However, when I try to use it, I get this message: <class XFW::StateError> The control <class Controls::Control>@000000000CB200B0 has no window handle. I'm not sure what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirk23 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'd love to see something like filter forge working natively in APhoto. Staying live, not rasterized into a layer. We have pixel content "linking", right . Why not making it mixing and interacting from different layers of origin through node based interface? Could be a huge advancement. Maybe in Designer if it would be easier there. I recall some old version of Filter forge stayed "live" on Xara5 decade ago. Been slow as hell although. But with Affinity GPU support perhaps it could be something better working . An ability to build your own "live" filters. I'd pay up to 1k for a something rivaling Substance Designer and working in connection to regular Affinity photo or Designer layers with quick and easy compositing abilities and brushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirk23 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, kirk23 said: I'd love to see something like filter forge working natively in APhoto. Staying live, not rasterized into a layer. We have pixel content "linking", right . Why not making it mixing and interacting from different layers of origin through node based interface? Could be a huge advancement. Maybe in Designer if it would be easier there. I recall some old version of Filter forge stayed "live" on Xara5 decade ago. Been slow as hell although. But with Affinity GPU support perhaps it could be something better working . An ability to build your own "live" filters. I'd pay up to 1k for a something rivaling Substance Designer and working in connection to regular Affinity photo or Designer layers with quick and easy compositing abilities and brushes. Please , make Affinity soft true advanced and beyond of all that Adobe annoying toys including Photoshop one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Allen Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Is anyone else still having problems with compatibility between Photo and Filter Forge on Windows 10? After a hiatus for most of 2021, I have recently returned to a project in which I was previously using Photo 1.8 and Filter Forge 10 without any issues. In the interim I updated Photo to 1.9 and more recently to 1.10. I now find that no selection information is passed from Photo to Filter Forge. For my needs this renders the FF plugin useless, and it is a key asset in my workflow. If I uninstall Photo 1.10 and instead install Photo 1.8, the two programs work together exactly as expected, with selections once again honored as expected. There are, however, two problems with this as a solution: I have many files that I opened in Photo 1.9 or later, so they can no longer be opened in 1.8. In the long term I definitely want to be able to update Photo to later versions. Also, the following quote puzzles me: On 4/2/2020 at 5:06 AM, Gabe said: As far as I'm aware, we only send full size layer information to plugins, and not selections. As a workaround, you could make your selection, CTRL + J to duplicate it on a new layer, and apply your FF effect to that new layer. I will move this to feature requests, as it's not a bug, but a missing feature. I have used a few versions of Affinity Photo prior to 1.9 in conjunction with Filter Forge and the selection info was passed along without issue. In fact, as I said above, it works fine in version 1.8. So the assertion that the selection information was never sent, and that this function should be a new feature appears to be a misunderstanding. If anyone can offer some current insight into this situation it would be much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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