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Is there (in Publisher) an easy way to move easily some paragraphs, particularly with lists ?

For example I have this list :

  1. apples
  2. pears
  3. cherrys

and I want to get

  1. apples
  2. cherrys
  3. pears

Indeed lists can be larger.

Of course I can select each paragraph with mouse then move them, but it is rather tedious to select a paragraph then move it exactly at the beginning of another paragraph.

I'd want keyboard shortcut to do that.

More : if I have lists with several levels, it would be better to move by one key one item and its sub-items.

What do you think ?

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I don't think that there is, but as a workaround you can easily sort text (even formatted one) using Word or LibreOffice and then paste it back once sorted. I am not sure however if multilevel sorting is supported in these apps.

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Thank you Lagarto

But I don't want sort lines, but move them in any order (sorry, my exemple was not clear).. And copy/pasting towards or from Word/LibreOffice loses attributes. Even bullets are lost so, all the more reason, hierarchy is no more respected.

I believe that there is no good trick for my wish. Inside Publisher there is no way, and outside result is not good.

 

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Some formatting is retained (fonts, local formatting, subgroups if created with hard linebreaks, and you can determine the sort key, as here the "second column", the strings after the first tab character, rather than the preceding number).

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...but automatic number lists are transformed to hard coded lists, so the main entries need to be manually renumbered. 

But it seems this is not what you were looking for. I suppose complex rearrangement features require some kind of internal hierarchical codings which is not typically available in page layout apps.  

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Good work, Lagarto. But I want just a shortcut key (or an icon tool) to move a numbered paragraph up or down, including sub-items.

Libreoffice has a tool to do that as soon as you are in a hierarchical or bulleted paragraph, MsWord also perhaps but I have not checked it.

 

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38 minutes ago, jjk said:

Libreoffice has a tool to do that as soon as you are in a hierarchical or bulleted paragraph, MsWord also perhaps but I have not checked it

Ok. I checked and Word allows to move items in an automatically numbered list so that it moves an item with its subitems, and renumbers the whole list. Yes, this would be handly also in a page layout app. (I could not find a way to do this in OfficeLibre, though, does it require a specific tool or command?)

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1 hour ago, jjk said:

But I want just a shortcut key (or an icon tool) to move a numbered paragraph up or down, including sub-items.

inDesign doesn't have a shortcut for that either but because it has scripting support  it has been scripted by Peter Kahrel and is available as a free script for those who want this.

My point then is that if/when we get scripting in Publisher a lot of things like that will be sorted out fairly easily.

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14 hours ago, Lagarto said:

I could not find a way to do this in OfficeLibre, though, does it require a specific tool or command?

No, not specific tool. As soon as you are in a bulleted list or a numbered title, LibreOffice displays a toolbar with all tools to move up/down the current item, with or without subitems.

Check a list having paragraph style=bullet 1, or some titles having paragraph style=Title 1|2|... For titles, you have also to apply numbering of titles.

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4 minutes ago, jjk said:

LibreOffice displays a toolbar with all tools to move up/down the current item, with or without subitems

Thanks, found it. Cool, and I can see how useful this can be! I do not think that there is similar feature in Word.

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