Color sliders permanently locked

[qaman333]

Hello!

I recently upgraded to AP 1.8.2 (on a Mac Mini, OS 10.13.6).

I find that the color selection panel is locked in the slider format. if I unlock it, I am able to change it to a color wheel (my preferred format) but only temporarily: when I leave the color panel and then return back to it, it reverts to locked sliders. Same thing happens every time I open a new document. This did not happen in 1.7.3

How can I permanently  unlock the panel so I can move freely between formats or at least lock it as a wheel? I have found no help regarding this either in the forums or by searching in Google.

Thanks,

Mauricio

[GarryP]

I cannot remember seeing behaviour like what you have described.
Would you be able to upload a video showing us what happens?

[qaman333]

 

Hi Garry,

See screenshots attached

Screenshot 01: color panel when application is launched (color space is HSL, locked)

Screenshot 02: I changed the color space changed to RBG

Screenshot 03: I changed the sliders changed to wheel

Screenshot 04: adding a mask, changes the color panel from wheel to sliders AND grayscale without mi intervention

 

Every time I have to change the settings. Even if I lock it,  it changes back.

My desire is: always remain in RGB, always remain as a color wheel.

 

What can I do? If this is not resolved I will need to uninstall 1.8.2 and go back to 1.7.3

Thanks,

Mauricio

 

 

[GarryP]

Thanks for the screenshots but they don’t really show us what is happening.
A video (or animated GIF) of the whole application running will show us what is going on so we can compare what is happening for you with what happens for us.
If you give us a video showing the process as it happens we can advise better.

[Murfee]

On 3/20/2020 at 6:07 PM, qaman333 said:

How can I permanently  unlock the panel so I can move freely between formats or at least lock it as a wheel?

I have the same problem Mauricio, the only way that I have found to lock the colour wheel is to lock the RGB sliders and change to the wheel then jump between the layer & mask a few times, eventually it will stick. This is ever since they introduced the greyscale for masking... something that I feel was an unnecessary change as it was fine before. 

 @GarryP, this is possibly a Mac problem.

[GarryP]

Ah, thanks Murfee.
If it could be a Mac-only thing then that might explain why I’m not seeing it.

[qaman333]

Thanks Murfee for your input!

@ Garry, if you do not have access to a Mac, can you request that somebody who does in the Serif team check for this?

Thanks,

Mauricio

[GarryP]

I’m just a user like yourself and have no special access to the team.
If you think the behaviour is wrong, and it sounds like it is, you can add a bug report in the relevant forum and someone on the team will probably look at it when they get a chance to.

[Callum]

Hi Qaman333,

Please could you provide a screen recording showing how to replicate this problem?

Thanks

C

[qaman333]

Hi Callum,

A video would show nothing different than the screenshots and the explanation already included in my 1st posting. I will include them again, just in case.

My only way to do a recording would be through my cell phone.

Please, please do not tell me this behavior is a "feature" !!!!

 

Screenshot 01: color panel when application is launched (color space is HSL, locked)

Screenshot 02: I changed the color space changed to RBG

Screenshot 03: I changed the sliders changed to wheel

Screenshot 04: adding a mask, changes the color panel from wheel to sliders AND grayscale without mi intervention

 

Every time I have to change the settings. Even if I lock it,  it changes back.

My desire is: always remain in RGB, always remain as a color wheel.

[R C-R]

2 hours ago, qaman333 said:

Screenshot 04: adding a mask, changes the color panel from wheel to sliders AND grayscale without mi intervention

This is the result of a change in the 1.8 versions. Now, when switching to a mask layer the color panel automatically changes to grayscale mode. I think this was done to make it more obvious that a mask is an alpha transparency channel, not a color channel, so it has no color & only uses greyness as a proxy for transparency/opacity.

That would be fine IF it only effected the color panel when a mask was selected, so that the Color panel revered to its prior state (both for the colors of its small color selector circles & its display mode) whenever a mask was not selected, but that is not how it works now.

Also, since a mask is a single channel with only an opacity/transparency attribute, it makes no sense to have separate Gray & Opacity sliders, or to have that box between them at all, much less as it is with something other than a uniform left-to-right black-to-white gradient.

[CuriousPuffin]

Hi, I experience the same.
With digital painting I use the Color Wheel. And I use masking a lot for quick help during my proces. But when selecting the mask my color picker changes to Grayscale sliders. But they don't change back when I continue painting on a "normal" layer. It stays with the sliders, and I have to manually change it back to the color wheel. Doing this several (read a lot) of times during a painting proces it very time consuming (and frustrating). Please fix this 🙏  (or make the Coolorus plug in available ;-))