RAW image processing

[Vasyl]

Hi,

I'm recently trying to move from Adobe products to Affinity Photo. currently I use both, as find the RAW processing in Affinity Photo sub-par yet. wanted to share some quick thoughts what could be improved:

1. when I process my ORF files, somehow the image is a bit wider than in viewfinder or camera JPEG, or processed with ACR. it's good that Affinity Photo has those extra pixels, but could we please default to the image dimensions that match camera JPEGs and allow user to get extra pixels on request?

2. I miss 'color profiles' from ACR. the ones that are 'adobe color' or 'adobe portrait'. I also think they have some special sauce to it, as I find colors from ACR more pleasing.

3. no auto WB? and no 'pick color in image to be white'? seriously?

4. could we please default lens vignette correction to off? it's good that Affinity Photo has this, but most time I like my pictures without this option.

[walt.farrell]

Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, Vasily.

18 minutes ago, VasilyK said:

when I process my ORF files, somehow the image is a bit wider than in viewfinder or camera JPEG, or processed with ACR. it's good that Affinity Photo has those extra pixels, but could we please default to the image dimensions that match camera JPEGs and allow user to get extra pixels on request?

It's intentional that Affinity Photo shows more pixels. It's showing all the data returned by the camera, and not cropping it to the manufacturer's suggested maximum. An option to suppress that is an interesting idea.

19 minutes ago, VasilyK said:

no auto WB? and no 'pick color in image to be white'? seriously?

Auto WB is available when you're back in the Photo Persona, via the Filters menu. I don't think it's available until then. I've no idea why it's not in the Develop Persona.

For picking a color to be white, try the White Balance Tool:

26 minutes ago, VasilyK said:

could we please default lens vignette correction to off? it's good that Affinity Photo has this, but most time I like my pictures without this option.

You can create a Preset for the Lens studio panel that has it off, if that helps.

[Pšenda]

10 hours ago, VasilyK said:

could we please default lens vignette correction to off? it's good that Affinity Photo has this, but most time I like my pictures without this option.

Off only vignette, or all lens correction? 

If all, you can off Automatic Lens Correction in Develop Assistant.

https://affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/pages/Raw/raw.html

Unfortunately, you cannot turn off some corrections.

 

[Vasyl]

@walt.farrell thanks for welcoming and tips.

 

10 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

Off only vignette, or all lens correction?

only vignette. lens correction seems to be spot on for me, compared to ACR and camera JPEG. not yet sure on fringing correction, but geometry correction is something that should be on default for micro 4:3 lenses (and perhaps other modern lens systems).

 

[Pšenda]

9 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I don't think it's available until then. I've no idea why it's not in the Develop Persona.

I think Auto White Balance is turned on by default in Develop Persona.
Only if you want to set it manually (for example using WB Tools), the automatic setting will be turned off.

However, the manual settings can be reset.

[Vasyl]

13 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

I think Auto White Balance is turned on by default in Develop Persona.

I'm pretty sure that the default for it is 'as shot', i.e. camera's automatic WB. shooting color temperature is part of a RAW file.

in ACR default is 'as shot' as well, but there is 'auto', i.e. the software analyzes the image post-shot and tries to guess the correct WB.

[Jowday]

11 hours ago, VasilyK said:

Hi,

I'm recently trying to move from Adobe products to Affinity Photo. currently I use both, as find the RAW processing in Affinity Photo sub-par yet. wanted to share some quick thoughts what could be improved:

1. when I process my ORF files, somehow the image is a bit wider than in viewfinder or camera JPEG, or processed with ACR. it's good that Affinity Photo has those extra pixels, but could we please default to the image dimensions that match camera JPEGs and allow user to get extra pixels on request?

2. I miss 'color profiles' from ACR. the ones that are 'adobe color' or 'adobe portrait'. I also think they have some special sauce to it, as I find colors from ACR more pleasing.

3. no auto WB? and no 'pick color in image to be white'? seriously?

4. could we please default lens vignette correction to off? it's good that Affinity Photo has this, but most time I like my pictures without this option.

https://app.olympus-imaging.com/olympusworkspace/en/ 😉

[Vasyl]

1 minute ago, Jowday said:

https://app.olympus-imaging.com/olympusworkspace/en/ 😉

yeah, I have it for updating firmware on my camera. totally not keen with RAW processing, ACR gives better results to me.

and yes, focus stacking in OW doesn't work for my lenses, but in Affinity it does. so for now I need both ACR and Affinity Photo to process my photos and just was dreaming that someday I could use only Affinity Photo.

what was your point?

[Jowday]

1 hour ago, Vasyl said:

what was your point?

Much better conversions than Photo for free. I use ACR a lot but I think it makes lifeless conversions for pixel peepers. Olympus and Fuji has the best organic image rendering. ACR is nowhere near. I prefer Capture One Pro for Olympus and Fuji images. But I do not use focus stacking of course.

I would never even consider Photo for RAW processing.

[Vasyl]

8 hours ago, Jowday said:

Much better conversions than Photo for free. I use ACR a lot but I think it makes lifeless conversions for pixel peepers. Olympus and Fuji has the best organic image rendering. ACR is nowhere near. I prefer Capture One Pro for Olympus and Fuji images. But I do not use focus stacking of course.

I would never even consider Photo for RAW processing.

I guess, different strokes for different folks. I just like colors in ACR better than in OW, find them more detailed and more natural. briefly tried C1, but also didn't care.

I used the old Olympus Master software though back in day in 2012 and was satisfied. when I got my first Pen in 2011, I liked the colors, the contrast and the whole in-camera JPEG engine. then the love faded away, I even got a Canon for other opinion on how it all should look. and now back to Olympus, but still dislike vendor's rendering. I actually recall that back in day ACR was bad as you're describing (and it's still bad with my Canon) and I actually was surprised that it gives me good results with my new Olympus.

it's great we have lots of software to choose from for different taste. I know, Affinity Photo's RAW engine is young and not sub-par yet, but just dreaming in feature requests forum that someday it would be better.