PeterB. Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Hi, I used the IDML open function to convert one of my layouts to afpub. So far so good everything is working except for two really essential things. The first one is optical kerning. The numbers and letters especially in the headlines are not balanced even though the setting in character studio are set to auto (see overlay on the bottom). What am I doing wrong? Which setting do I have to use to get a more balanced look like in indd? The second thing is that the paragraphs are not balanced anymore so now they don't look very evenly. Is there an option in publisher like in indd (balance ragged lines)? Rich313 and Kal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Lee D Posted March 5, 2020 Staff Share Posted March 5, 2020 The kerning will need to be manually adjusted, it may be something within the .IDML file that our imported is having trouble reading/converting. Balance ragged lines isn't a feature we currently support and have any current plans to add, but you never know for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB. Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 3:32 PM, Lee D said: Balance ragged lines isn't a feature we currently support and have any current plans to add really sad to hear that... Optical kerning and balance ragged lines are basic features for pro users. I can't tell how often I use them per day and how many time they already saved me. I'm sorry to say that but as long as there are no plans to implement those features, the real pro users will not be able to do a full switch to affinity. Along with multisite spreads and a passthrough option for placed content, these are the missing features that keep me stuck to indd with my more advanced projects garrettm30, Rich313, mackleys and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlxndr Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just chipping in to say Balance Ragged Lines is something I would consider essential Aleksandar Kovač, StanleyHarrison, Rich313 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moudy01 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I also consider a "Balance Ragged Lines" feature to be extremly helpful. It's one of the options I really miss since I changed from ID 6 to Publisher. District Design, Kal, Rich313 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyHarrison Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Sorry for digging this thread up but have you figured out any workarounds for the missing "balance ragged lines" feature since April? 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB. Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 unfortunately I haven't found a workaround yet. This is a feature that I really miss very much. Doing all of this by hand takes a lot of time, which is why I still have to work a lot with InDesign. I really hope that the affinity team will still implement this feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I find that using the Auto Hyphenation option turned on in the Paragraph Styles helps with giving me a 'better looking' ragged right edge. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.0 | Affinity Photo 2.4.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moudy01 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 no satisfying workaround found. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 +1 vote for Balance ragged line option Aleksandar Kovač 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Here is a JavaScript code if that help https://github.com/adobe/balance-text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 When some of the bigger requests get implemented, I do hope Serif considers balance ragged lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB. Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 12:36 AM, garrettm30 said: bigger requests @garrettm30 do you know which ones bigger requests are or is there a list like the one in the forum at the beginning of affinity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 hours ago, PeterB. said: do you know which ones bigger requests I wasn't referring to anything official, and Serif does not share their list of priorities (anymore). I wasn't being specific, but I was thinking in terms of those requests that seem to get the most attention on the forums. Footnotes and scripting are the two remaining pinned requests that have not yet been addressed, and they gain quite a lot of attention. We have had confirmation that these are planned to be included at some point. Then there are other hot requests that haven't been pinned but keep coming up in various threads. Column span/split and "global layers" are a couple examples that come to mind. To give some examples of my idea of past "bigger requests" that have been or are currently in the works: IDML import (released in 1.8), preflight (released in 1.8), packaging (precursor released in 1.8 but true packaging in beta 1.9), PDF passthrough (in beta 1.9), data merge (in beta 1.9). And obviously, they do need to spend time getting existing features working as intended, so a stead stream of bug fixes is warranted. As to personal priorities, I have a hard time deciding which I am most eager to see. Honestly, my personal top priority at this point would be a multi-line composer (which I think would be necessary for balancing ragged lines, as I posted elsewhere). Because of the lack of this feature, I spend a lot more time in Publisher as compared to the same publication in InDesign. However, it has not yet garnered the same kind of attention as these "bigger requests" (by which I mean more popular), and as Serif can't do everything at once, it is natural that they would need to prioritize. The popularity of a feature is likely one of several criteria Serif uses to determine its internal roadmap, and that does sound like a fair approach. Amoung the popular requests, I think I personally hope to see footnotes get the attention next. Back to this thread concerning optical kerning (or alternatively, an interface for custom kerning pairs) and ragged balanced lines, if Serif did choose to work on these in the near-term, I would not complain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckc Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Without "balance ragged lines," it's not going to be very professional looking unless you add line breaks where needed. Definitely a necessary feature to contend with Adobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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