RainerH Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Hello, I'm testing Affinity maybe I replace Adobe CC with the three Affinity Programs. I created a simple Publisher document and placed a foto of a young girl. Then I changed the persona to photo and took the selection brush tool to cut out her of the background. After making the basic selection I pressed refine and with matte mode of the brush I drew along the borders of the girl. After leafing the left mouse button the selection was refined a lot an the result was very good. But now there's a shadow on the girls hair along the cutting line where I drew with the refinement brush. What did I wrong? Thank you for your answer in advancw. Best regards Rainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Even in the tutorial video https://affinity.serif.com/de/tutorials/designer/desktop/video/301820880 there's this shadow where the Selection was refined with the refine-brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginary Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 "Refine selection" is completely useless in Affinity. It produces unpredictable results, it hasn't been improved since 2017. Poor try to imitate Photoshop, poorly implemented.Serif, do you even listen to your customers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted March 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted March 10, 2020 Hi both, Can you please attach a sample document so we can try and replicate it here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginary Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I have never seen such a shadow-like margin so far, so I don't have a sample document. What bothers me most is the unpredictable behaviour of the refine tool when it comes to brushing background or foreground areas. Theres is always some bleeding into the opposite area: The amount of bleeding seems to be dependent on the brush size, but a 2px brush is useless IMO. The second issue relates to the automatic colour decontamination which results in a difference between preview and avctual selection if you do not set output to mask. In Photoshop colour decontamination can be switched off (it is by default). Summing up this means that "refine selection" is not usable in a serious way which really is a pity because Affinity has taken some steps into the right direction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Hello, here comes a sample of the margin. As Affinitiy Photo and jpg where I've marked what I mean. Rainer myself.afphoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted March 12, 2020 Staff Share Posted March 12, 2020 I don't know how you those results... If you use an appropriate brush size, you should be getting something like this. You do need to go over the edges and play with the matte, foreground and background options. PaulAffinity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 The problem that i mean isn't the outer side of the face but the shadow in the face f. e. between the man's (from his sight) left ear and eye. That wasn't there in the foto. Or at the girls left temple also not contained in the original foto of her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I'm not seeing a "shadow in the face" that was not in the original image - you can unhide the 2 layers in the attached file and zoom in to compare them. myselfb.afphoto PetervL 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginary Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 This is my attempt. I chose output to selection, made a mask and set the layer to difference. Except for some single pixels in the feathered area it is completely black, so no difference, no shadow. Refining was difficult as usual, because the Matte brush made to much of the foreground transparent (that's ok, the image is quite a hard one due to lack of contrast and sharpness) and foreground and background brush spilled over into the opposite areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainerH Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 I think theres a problem with understanding. I don'T mean the cutout itself but the Pixel shadow in the face or on the yellow dress at the border or insider the hair silouette of the picture in my 1st post. There where the refinement brush was drawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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