smileyrebs Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) I seem to be having an issue where the lines are appearing jagged on at the edges even when I'm just inserting them with the pen tool. Any suggestions on how I can fix this or is this a known bug? This has only just started happening in the last week, it was fine before that. Edited February 25, 2020 by smileyrebs Attaching file Quote
GarryP Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Welcome to the forums. Which Affinity application are you using, and on which OS? If you are using Designer, the first thing to do is check that you are not in “Pixel View Mode”, see attached image. Quote
smileyrebs Posted February 25, 2020 Author Posted February 25, 2020 Thank you for your prompt reply Garry. I am working in Designer and I don't have the pixel view mode on. I'm currently using Windows 10. Quote
GarryP Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 You’re welcome. Shame the ‘quick fix’ didn’t work though. If you can’t – or don’t want to – share your file, we will need more information. 1. Are you seeing the jaggies on-screen, or on export (of what type?), or both? 2. What is your document size and unit of measure (a screen grab of the Document Setup dialog is good)? 3. What is the zoom level? Does a change in zoom change the effect? 4. How are the lines/shapes – the ones that have the jaggies – drawn? 5. Are you using a brush? If so, which one and what size are you using it at? 6. What are your Performance setting in Preferences (a screen grab of the dialog is good)? 7. Is it all lines/shapes at the same time or just some? Some of these things might not matter but it’s best to get as much info’ as possible. Quote
firstdefence Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, smileyrebs said: Thank you for your prompt reply Garry. I am working in Designer and I don't have the pixel view mode on. I'm currently using Windows 10. You are probably in Pixel Persona, instead of the Draw Persona, Draw persona is the vector persona. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
GarryP Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 As far as I know, you can’t use the Pen Tool – as smileyrebs says they are doing – in the Pixel Persona. Also, vector objects look just fine for me in the Pixel Persona with no jaggies. Quote
Old Bruce Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 I would check View > View Mode > Pixels vs Vector Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
firstdefence Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 7 hours ago, smileyrebs said: only just started happening in the last week, it was fine before that. If it was ok before and now it's just happening that would suggest a setting has been "knocked" 1 hour ago, GarryP said: As far as I know, you can’t use the Pen Tool – as smileyrebs says they are doing – in the Pixel Persona. Also, vector objects look just fine for me in the Pixel Persona with no jaggies. Doh! lol I have to say I get the same result as you Garry. OP maybe upload the file or a scaled down version. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
smileyrebs Posted February 26, 2020 Author Posted February 26, 2020 Thanks everyone. I'm definitely not in pixel view. I've attached the file that I'm workiong on below. Let me know if you still need me to provide screen shots and I would be happy to do so. elephant_animal_illustration_(f5).afdesign Quote
markw Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 Hello smileyrebs and welcome to the Affinity forums🙂, The good news is your file opens and works just fine for me. Nice elephant! Here’s a closeup screenshot of the eye at around 30,000 zoom. And it still looks good. Can you give any further info about your setup or a screenshot showing more clearly what you are seeing on screen? Quote macOS 12.7.6 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M
Move Along People Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here
GarryP Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 I’ve looked at the document on my Windows 10 laptop and I can see a small amount of jagginess in certain areas but it’s nothing that I wouldn’t expect from some software trying to display a complex curve in a finite amount of square pixels of a fixed size with a limited amount of colours. (The effect is a little bit more noticeable on my external monitor than it is on the built-in screen.) However, I managed to reduce some of the jagginess by altering the Blend Gamma of one of the lines, see attached video (needs to be viewed full-screen). I don’t know how much of a ‘proper’ solution this is as it would have to be applied in numerous places and I don’t know how it would affect any export processes. 2020-02-26 08-23-03.mp4 Quote
smileyrebs Posted February 28, 2020 Author Posted February 28, 2020 Quote If you can’t – or don’t want to – share your file, we will need more information.1. Are you seeing the jaggies on-screen, or on export (of what type?), or both?2. What is your document size and unit of measure (a screen grab of the Document Setup dialog is good)?3. What is the zoom level? Does a change in zoom change the effect?4. How are the lines/shapes – the ones that have the jaggies – drawn?5. Are you using a brush? If so, which one and what size are you using it at?6. What are your Performance setting in Preferences (a screen grab of the dialog is good)?7. Is it all lines/shapes at the same time or just some?Some of these things might not matter but it’s best to get as much info’ as possible. @GarryP, In answer to your questions The jaggies are both on screen and export. I have been exporting in both SVG and PDF formats and it is the same for both. I attach a Word document with all of the relevant screenshots. The jaggies appear when I am zoomed out (ie. the whole illustration on one page) and when it is zoomed in. The lines have been created using the pen tool. No brushes have been used. It seems to be only some lines and not all of them. One thing to note though is when I opened the illustration in my iPad app Designer app, it didn't seem to have the jaggies problem?!? 28.02.20 screen shots.docx Quote
GarryP Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 I exported your drawing as a PNG, loaded it into Photo, set the zoom to Pixel Size and took a screen grab. Some of the curves look super-smooth (ringed in red) while some look quite/very rough (ringed in purple). I have a feeling that there might be no easy way round this as it could be a combination of how the software works, how different screens work, and how our eyes work. Maybe someone else can come up with an explanation/solution but I think I’ve come to the end of my ability to advise further on this one, sorry. Hopefully you’ll be able to get an answer soon. Quote
smileyrebs Posted February 29, 2020 Author Posted February 29, 2020 Thanks everyone so much for your help. I will keep trying different things to try and work out what the issue is. Quote
John Rostron Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 @smileyrebs, it would help if you gave your thread a meaningful title such as "jagged lines in designer". Joh Quote Windows 11, Affinity Photo 2.4.2 Designer 2.4.2 and Publisher 2.4.2 (mainly Photo). CPU: Intel Core i5 8500 @ 3.00GHz. RAM: 32.0GB DDR4 @ 1063MHz, Graphics: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Kobe C. Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 @smileyrebs Did you ever get this resolved? I have the same issue. People keep telling me to just zoom out but I'm not zoomed in. Losing my mind over this one. Quote
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