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Quickest way to have numbers with square or ellipse background

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I have a map and I want to add numbers to the houses.

Ideal each number has an ellipse filled background or stroke

So currently I add an ellipse, then the number and then group those two things (so I can easily move them as one)

But is there a quicker way, e.g. so the text itself can have definable background.

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You can also draw a colored circle and a number, group them together and turn them into a symbol, disable the "Sync" button in the "Symbols" tab of the studio, place the symbols in the desired places and then change the number of each instance.

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Just a quick note to add that with the use of special charters the Numberpile font can potentially go upto 200.
There should be a guid in the Numberpile download showing which characters to use.


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22 minutes ago, G13RL said:

Hello, Mr. Lucky,

If you don't need a number greater than 80 you can use a font for this, "Numberpile" for example. This free font is available on several sites, for example here:

https://fontmeme.com/fonts/numberpile-font/
Just put the font in the desired color.

Really nice, and going to be great for others but one small problem for this project is the number remains transparent and I just found I need to use an arial photo, so there is a problem because the background showing through the transparent number is some times not enough contrast

 

On the above map with constant beige houses as background to the number it's great though and I will be doing some of those in the future.

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16 minutes ago, G13RL said:

You can also draw a colored circle and a number, group them together and turn them into a symbol, disable the "Sync" button in the "Symbols" tab of the studio, place the symbols in the desired places and then change the number of each instance.

 

This seems great, but nothing happens when I click on sync so I don't know how to disable it.

 

Also how do I chamnge the number? If I click on it and type 30, it seems to make it transparent 30%

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Nothing visible on the drawing happens when you disable the "Sync" button, but it allows you to change the number of a single instance of the symbols you have placed on the drawing instead of changing them all at once.
To change the number, take the "Text" tool, and select it by passing the cursor over it.

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1 minute ago, G13RL said:

Nothing visible on the drawing happens when you disable the "Sync" button, but it allows you to change the number of a single instance of the symbols you have placed on the drawing instead of changing them all at once.
To change the number, take the "Text" tool, and select it by passing the cursor over it.

No, I don't mean nothing happens on the drawing when I press tyhe sync button, I mean nothing happens on the button to let me know it is on or off.

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2 minutes ago, G13RL said:

It's weird, it's true that the difference is not obvious, especially with the dark interface

The curse of overly subtle Affinity UI elements strikes again!


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36 minutes ago, Mr Lucky said:

Aha, I can see a very slight change if I get very close to the screen! Thanks.

Adjusting the gamma setting in your Preferences for the User Interface may help, a little.


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It looks even better with type 1,2,3,4..., 1,25 mm for left text and 2,3 mm bottom for numbers 1 to 9 and for numbers 10 to 99 left 2,5 mm. Top and right can be left 0 mm. As a hint: Arrow has to placed at the end of the line so you see no leftovers from the line. Plus you need a blank after the number being generated.

I attached a beta file for those who want to experiment themselves.

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An alternative method would be to create a circle and then convert it to a Text Frame.
By doing this you can change the text easily without having to go ‘inside the group’.
It doesn’t always produce something that looks perfect, depending on various things, but with some tweaking of settings you can get something fairly nice.

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numbers-with-circle-backgrounds.afpub

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2 hours ago, GarryP said:

An alternative method would be to create a circle and then convert it to a Text Frame

I had the same idea. It works nice if you need to create lots of e.g. number shapes as when you have text frames chained, you can easily copy paste sequential numbers from e.g. Excel, and then have them formatted with character styles. Text frames have separate coloring (fill and stroke) using the text frame tool. The shapes can be kept chained but if that is a problem, they could be converted to curves to separate them (but then you would no longer have editable text, of course). There does not seem to be a way to break the text flow and keep the content (as there is in InDesign and QuarkXPress). It would also be great if the shapes could be transformed afterwards (so that you could e.g. change circle to rectangle, etc.), or if you could save object styles, but this works pretty well.

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numbers_in_shapes.afpub

 

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2 hours ago, GarryP said:

An alternative method would be to create a circle and then convert it to a Text Frame.
 

This sounds good, another thing to try. My concern would be they may not all be the same size, ie grow or shrink depending on the size of the number?

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The circular Text Frame stays the same size, unless you manually resize it.
One thing you need to do though is check that all the numbers you want to use can all fit in the same size frame.
E.g. Try a 1, does that look okay? Try an 88, does that look okay? Try a 326, does that look okay?
You might need to tweak some settings – frame size, font size, leading, maybe others - to get them all looking the same before you start using it ‘in anger’ as the ‘circularness’ of the frame sometimes seems to interfere with the text in unexpected ways.

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It's probably not a huge concern, but it's worth remembering that some fonts (mainly those known as "Old Style") treat numeric characters as lower-case, some with descenders and some with ascenders. This can make the individual characters appear not to be vertically aligned, which may look odd on a map: 

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All these characters in Bodoni 72 Oldstyle have the same character and paragraph settings, and the circular text frames, as suggested by @GarryP are exactly the same size. Yet 6 and 8, which have 'ascenders', appear higher in their frames than 3, 4, 5, 7 and 9, which haves 'descenders'. Meanwhile 1, 2 and 0, which have neither, look smaller than all the other characters.

Here they are all in a row:

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(When I did this sort of thing for a living, I always used to find the figure 4 particularly annoying. It never seems to look right, no matter how you align it and no matter what font you choose. :S)

 


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