Widestone Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I have tested (in the newest Beta Versions) to copy the *.propcols of BRUSHES, VECTORBRUSHES, FILLS and STYLES. No problems so far. And much less work Is this an (official or korrekt) way to do this or can it make problems? Is the format equal in all 3 applications? If YES, it would be nice to have the settings for this in only one directory (userdefined if YES or NO) to "synchronize" the Apps automatically. Only the ASSETS make problems. But maybe is one of them corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted February 5, 2020 Staff Share Posted February 5, 2020 Hi Widestone, You are using the method we would recommend for synchronizing between computers. This shouldn't cause any problems. As for the Assets file, do you get an error or do they just not import? As for a shared folder for all of the settings, i know it's been mentioned before, so may happen at a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widestone Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 After copying the Assets.propcol and restart the other App the App crashes after restart (while or after loading the fonts). If I delete the assets.propcol and restart all is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widestone Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 I forgot. I used the assets.propcol from Photo or Designer. And the Publisher crashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Widestone said: I forgot. I used the assets.propcol from Photo or Designer. And the Publisher crashed. Same release level of Photo/Designer and Publisher? You wouldn't be able to copy a 1.8 .propcol file to a 1.7 application successfully. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widestone Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Yes - all latest Betas. Will test with the "fresh" Beta of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widestone Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 beta-1.8.0.549 is not crashing with a copied assets.propcol and works While starting Publisher makes some *.propcol - Backups and decreases the 2 brushes.propcols. Are some brushes incompatible and will deleted or why does Publisher this (also in the former beta)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Widestone said: While starting Publisher makes some *.propcol - Backups and decreases the 2 brushes.propcols. Are some brushes incompatible and will deleted or why does Publisher this (also in the former beta)? If I remember correctly there was a problem with the *.propcol files never decreasing in size, even if the user had deleted some brushes. Possibly you're just seeing the effect of cleaning up the files to eliminate wasted space for previously deleted brushes. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanmac Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 2/5/2020 at 12:36 PM, stokerg said: You are using the method we would recommend for synchronizing between computers. Hi, I'd like to sync beetwen two computer, but I can't find what is this "procedure". Can someone point me to right direction, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 hours ago, evanmac said: Hi, I'd like to sync beetwen two computer, but I can't find what is this "procedure". Can someone point me to right direction, please? It involves copying the internal files maintained by the application. The location, names, and contents of the files are described in this FAQ: Of course, the application should not be running when you copy the files. I believe it was only ever officially suggested for copying between the beta version of an application and the retail version, and then only for users who purchased directly from Serif. As I recall it was not recommended for users who purchased from the Mac App Store or the Microsoft Store. I have had good results doing it, but I don't know that it is an action that is officially supported, and I would make a backup of the existing files on the target computer or application before replacing them. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanmac Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 6 hours ago, walt.farrell said: It involves copying the internal files maintained by the application. The location, names, and contents of the files are described in this FAQ: So, if I understand correctly, moving (and symlinking) those folders to a net-shared one (icloud or dropbox, for instance) would make the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, evanmac said: So, if I understand correctly, moving (and symlinking) those folders to a net-shared one (icloud or dropbox, for instance) would make the trick? It really depends on your risk appetite and backup method. Affinity apps like to occasionally produce corrupt files, especially when accessing NAS or cloud storage, or USB drives. Just give it a try, but make backups or exports of those file’s whenever you add valuable data into them. If it works, you are lucky. If you run into issues, use the backup for recovery and revert to other methods. Nobody knows if Affinity locks file against parallel write operations, and re-loads files after startup when the other side changes them. I would assume if you add to assets on all synchronized Apps, the later write can overwrite the earlier write. Curious to hear if it goes well. But even if it works with current release, there is no guarantee it works after any upgrade. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, evanmac said: So, if I understand correctly, moving (and symlinking) those folders to a net-shared one (icloud or dropbox, for instance) would make the trick? What are you trying to accomplish? The applications are not designed to allow the files to be shared, so you would need to make sure that only one computer was accessing the file at a time, and only one application on that computer was using the file. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanmac Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 17 hours ago, NotMyFault said: It really depends on your risk appetite and backup method. Affinity apps like to occasionally produce corrupt files, especially when accessing NAS or cloud storage, or USB drives. I have all of my work saved on iCloud Drive, and never had a fault. I know that we are talking about configs file, but I don't think I'll have any problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanmac Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 17 hours ago, walt.farrell said: What are you trying to accomplish? The applications are not designed to allow the files to be shared, so you would need to make sure that only one computer was accessing the file at a time, and only one application on that computer was using the file. I work on two different workstation (in two different locations): one to create and manipulate, and the other to send the files to printer What I'd like to accomplish, is, for instance, to sync the styles (text, shape, chars, etc.) between the two machines, or the brushes, etc. I know I can donwload the resources from my affinity account on both devices, but it isn't enough for my workflow I'm sure that the apps themselves are closed (not only the files(s) I'm working on) once I open on the other workstation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 18 hours ago, walt.farrell said: What are you trying to accomplish? The applications are not designed to allow the files to be shared, so you would need to make sure that only one computer was accessing the file at a time, and only one application on that computer was using the file. Lucky boy 👍🏼 Crossing fingers that it works well. Please share your experience after using this for some time, including at least one release upgrade. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widestone Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 The *.propcols can be very large (some GBs). That can be a problem when storing on LAN or NAS or Clouds. And the accessing from more than one computer simultaniously too. To use the same *.propcols for AP and AD and AP is not a good idea. Some things stored in this files can't be used in all programs and make crashes on starting the applications. My setup with no problems on MultiBootSystem since years is: 2 Hardlinks or Symlinks from the Locations "C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\Affinity" and "C:\ProgramData\Affinity" to a different local drive (before installing the Apps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 21 hours ago, evanmac said: So, if I understand correctly, moving (and symlinking) those folders to a net-shared one (icloud or dropbox, for instance) would make the trick? Make the net-shared here intranet-shared, as far as the intranet is very fast & always stable here. - Further a syncing via getting then always an up-to-date local copy of a main intranet backup storage place might be even more secure here in terms of Affinity apps usage. One can also setup some personal central GIT repository for sharing those things, which is then always kept up-to-date and will be from time to time updated in case of some machine's Affinity *.propcols additions (GIT push). The other machine then does a GIT sync and should then be always provided with the latest additions from the central repository. - Of course there is also other software which allows to sync from a central intranet place and thus to always provide a local copy then on a change of the central one! The above wouldn't need any symlinks at all, since it's overall more like a copy/update operation. Though on a fast & stable local net, sharing via just symlinking certain files might be also an acceptable option. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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