jbrent Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I have a photo of a house with a tree in front of it and extending above the roof line and into the sky background. I want to replace the sky. I make a selection of the sky with the tree. When I try to refine the selection, the tree area, ie limbs, is not completely defined leaving red background on the sky area. I have tried changing settings like border & ramp but to no avail. Any suggestions on how to get a clean refinement on the tree limbs???? I have included 3 screenshots showing the problem. Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongcreator Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 When you encounter issues like this, this is when you brush onto areas. Notice the section in the refinement panel that says 'Adjustment Brush?" Make sure Matte is selected and paint over the areas of the tree that you would like Affinity to look at. It will re-analyze those areas and do a much better job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, tongcreator said: When you encounter issues like this, this is when you brush onto areas. Notice the section in the refinement panel that says 'Adjustment Brush?" Make sure Matte is selected and paint over the areas of the tree that you would like Affinity to look at. It will re-analyze those areas and do a much better job. Extremely difficult to remove tree, with the amount of limbs and colors displayed, even though covered up with red mask or refine mode. Improvement I hope in 1.8 release. Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongcreator Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, Cecil said: Extremely difficult to remove tree, with the amount of limbs and colors displayed, even though covered up with red mask or refine mode. Improvement I hope in 1.8 release. Would you mind if you could send me this image? I'd like to give it a try and let you know what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, tongcreator said: Would you mind if you could send me this image? I'd like to give it a try and let you know what happens. If successful, please post video. I’m sure you would assist many users. Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongcreator Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Cecil said: If successful, please post video. I’m sure you would assist many users. Will do. Please upload the image and I will start refining it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, tongcreator said: Will do. Please upload the image and I will start refining it. Sorry not my photo, just need to see how it’s done. jbrent OP Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongcreator Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cecil said: Sorry not my photo, just need to see how it’s done. jbrent OP Oh okay. I will see you tomorrow likely if not tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVDB Photography Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I think channel selection will do a better job ... firstdefence 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongcreator Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 9:02 PM, Cecil said: Sorry not my photo, just need to see how it’s done. jbrent OP Hey, just letting you know that I have not forgot about you. I am working on it right now and will get back to you tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granddaddy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Have you seen these tutorials? The first five involve tree branches and leaves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdZ9H7eYWvo [Affinity Photo] Removing background from Trees (Leaves selection) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2cucrtUFWE Remove background of trees in affinity photo (This one uses channels.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUsxghAYrlA How to remove tree background in affinity photo (Using Blend Options) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2NcxyuUs0 Stacked Threshold Masking (using Affinity Photo) (From InAffinity) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0uIofCR3FE Affinity Photo Tutorial. Remove/ exchange background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJ0jypAE2k How to remove background around lots of hair | Affinity Photo【 Updated tutorial 】 (Fly around hair, but maybe more complex than some} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNkyNKoKroU Selecting Hair (and Changing the Background) with Affinity Photo (From InAffinity, hair against a landscape) And we can always learn from users of the app that shall not be named using channels here also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgbmrGwkYJs Crazy Trick To Replace Sky in Seconds! - Photoshop Tutorial Quote Affinity Photo 2.4.2 (MSI) and 1.10.6; Affinity Publisher 2.4.2 (MSI) and 1.10.6. Windows 10 Home x64 version 22H2. Dell XPS 8940, 16 GB Ram, Intel Core i7-11700K @ 3.60 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 @Granddaddy I was actually referring to the OP. Many YouTube tutorials have simple backgrounds to improve Inpainting/Refine Selections. Removing the OP example is another matter that Inpainting/Refine Sections struggles to remove unwanted pixels. Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Granddaddy said: Have you seen these tutorials? The first five involve tree branches and leaves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdZ9H7eYWvo [Affinity Photo] Removing background from Trees (Leaves selection) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2cucrtUFWE Remove background of trees in affinity photo (This one uses channels.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUsxghAYrlA How to remove tree background in affinity photo (Using Blend Options) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2NcxyuUs0 Stacked Threshold Masking (using Affinity Photo) (From InAffinity) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0uIofCR3FE Affinity Photo Tutorial. Remove/ exchange background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJ0jypAE2k How to remove background around lots of hair | Affinity Photo【 Updated tutorial 】 (Fly around hair, but maybe more complex than some} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNkyNKoKroU Selecting Hair (and Changing the Background) with Affinity Photo (From InAffinity, hair against a landscape) And we can always learn from users of the app that shall not be named using channels here also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgbmrGwkYJs Crazy Trick To Replace Sky in Seconds! - Photoshop Tutorial My fav sky replacement technique is blend ranges, it's also the most realistic. done right a sky replacement is almost undetectable. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrent Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 I also use blend ranges for sky replacements. It just bothers me that the refining tool is so inconsistent. Thanks for the tutorials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongcreator Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 10 hours ago, jbrent said: I also use blend ranges for sky replacements. It just bothers me that the refining tool is so inconsistent. Thanks for the tutorials. Using the flood fill tool(make sure it is on Add mode) over and over is a method. Here is the result I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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