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11 hours ago, SharonPerp said:

where those assistant error message popups reside

Unfortunately, they are not available anywhere, so I have long ago asked for a history of the assistant's events and reports.

 

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I wouldn't call these critical by any stretch. They tell you what action the assistant has taken, the list is like this for Designer

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I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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10 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I wouldn't call these critical by any stretch. They tell you what action the assistant has taken, the list is like this for Designer

Sorry, but how does it relate to "history", which operations, how many times and in what order did the assistant perform? In most cases, I don't even notice that an operation (even a destructive one) has been performed by an assistant. If there were any warnings, plus a list of operations performed (as I mentioned in Windows Action Center), then everything is clear and completely under the control of the user. 

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My input regarding those Assistant Messages:

- they can not be moved  - Why? Perhaps @SharonPerp would not miss them if she could make them pop-up right in the middle of the screen?
- they are too subtle (?): a grey message on grey background.. ?? (too much EyeCandy, too little usability - again)
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- How about an option: Autofade yes/no?
- How about an option: if Autofade = no -> stack the messages, each event linked to the position in the document history
- which leads us to a Message-Center, how about that?
- How about a countdown-to-fade-timer ?: A red (?) line at the top/bottom of the message that shrinks continuously. If it´s gone the message fades.
(I have seen that somewhere, but can not find an example...)

kind regards
Fritz

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2 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I wouldn't call these critical by any stretch. They tell you what action the assistant has taken, the list is like this for Designer

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Hmmm, thanks for posting that, I hadn't seen it before. But these aren't the messages I'm getting. They're more like missing or modified resources or something. Next time I'll have to take a screenshot. One of them says an asset has been modified outside of the program. But, it doesn't tell me which one, so what good is it?

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10 hours ago, SharonPerp said:

But these aren't the messages I'm getting. They're more like missing or modified resources or something. Next time I'll have to take a screenshot. One of them says an asset has been modified outside of the program. But, it doesn't tell me which one, so what good is it?

If it's this one, it does tell you what changed:

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If you're fast enough, you can click Resource Manager to open the Resource Manager so you can click Update for that image. If you're not fast enough, Document > Resource Manager (in Publisher's Publisher Persona) will let you find it.

Or you can configure Publisher to update Linked resources automatically, and then just ignore those Assistant messages.

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12 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

If it's this one, it does tell you what changed:

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If you're fast enough, you can click Resource Manager to open the Resource Manager so you can click Update for that image. If you're not fast enough, Document > Resource Manager (in Publisher's Publisher Persona) will let you find it.

Or you can configure Publisher to update Linked resources automatically, and then just ignore those Assistant messages.

LOL, I think fast enough has left the building. But, seriously, I have discovered that if I do see it in time, at least I can hover over it and it will stay long enough for me to read. And, I believe I've gotten other's besides just resource manager but have never managed to catch them quick enough to read. Now that I know the hover trick I hope to snag one of those. Thanks!

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You're welcome.

 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
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