Pasting MS Word content with tracked changes

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Below: Word document tracked change example 

Below: InDesign document tracked pasted example (matches visible copy in Word) 

Below: Publisher document tracked pasted example (includes all the 'deleted' copy from Word) 

I have recently hit a new problem in my transition of workflows to Publisher that when using a tracked changes Microsoft Word document to cut and paste amends to Publisher (and Designer) it seems to bring all the detritus of the tracked changes with the word clipboard, therefore including all the deleted content that should be ignored. After working this way for many years in InDesign this has caused a couple of embarrassing slip ups - not so much in native English but in translated docs such as the example included.

So where is the problem and is there a cure?

Content pasted into InDesign appears as the corrected text in Word - obviously the desired effect, but as far as I can tell an automatic scenario and not a preference in either InD or Word.

Certainly I can find no preference or pasting method in Publisher that offers a solution. Yes I can Review and accept all changes in Word before cutting and pasting, but then I lose all indication of where the changes are/were in the Word doc, so need to have 2 word documents open to flick between.

If I'm missing a trick please let me know. If not, this is a problematic issue/bug in a regular workflow.

[Seneca]

12 hours ago, Like, would like more if… said:

Yes I can Review and accept all changes in Word before cutting and pasting, but then I lose all indication of where the changes are/were in the Word doc, so need to have 2 word documents open to flick between.

You only loose track changes if you accept the changes and save the Word document.

If you close your Word document without saving you don't loose anything.

So I would advise you to accept all the track changes copy your text to Publisher and close your Word document without saving any changes.

Currently, Publisher doesn't have any track changes facility as far as I am aware of so the solution above should not cause you any slip-ups. :-) 

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Thanks for reply but you’ve misunderstood.

If you look at the examples you’ll see that Publisher pasted what it should leave out whereas InDesign pastes just what you want, the amended text. 

Keeping or losing changes in word is not the issue. It’s the clipboard transfer that’s not working as expected. 

[Alfred]

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Thanks for reply but you’ve misunderstood.

No, you have. What @Seneca is saying is that (contrary to your assertion) you don’t need two versions of the Word document. Accept the changes so that the clipboard contents will be correct, copy the text to Publisher and then close the Word document without saving.

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I think I know that. What happens in a long document where you don’t want to replace all copy is that you copy and paste amended section only and then paste into Publisher. If you accept all charges in Word you lose all the markup, and therefore your place in the process. 
 

What none of you are assessing is that if you copy and paste to InDesign it ditches what you don’t want automatically. If you copy and paste into Publisher without accepting changes you get all of the junk with it. 

[fde101]

I believe this should be a feature request (to have Publisher recognize and discard the undesired text from the clipboard) rather than a bug report.

[walt.farrell]

 

On 1/16/2020 at 8:03 AM, Like, would like more if… said:

Certainly I can find no preference or pasting method in Publisher that offers a solution. Yes I can Review and accept all changes in Word before cutting and pasting, but then I lose all indication of where the changes are/were in the Word doc, so need to have 2 word documents open to flick between

Not having Word I can't test this, but from experience with copying and pasting such text from LibreOffice into Firefox a simpler workaround might be to simply tell Word not to display the markups, then copy the text.

No need to accept anything; just don't display the markups.

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Not quite @walt.farrell but I've run some tests and found out that this is achievable, however not in the way that is clearly accepted by InDesign.

Not a programmer or delver into any kind of code I've been experimenting with Word's options which made absolutley no difference to how InDesign pasted the content, but if using Publisher you need to ensure that the settings in Word are Review > Tracking >Track Changes = On.

With track changes ON the edited/altered or deleted content does not get dumped into Publisher so my normal workflow can resume.

I can see what's changed in Word, select and copy just that and paste into Publisher exactly as the editor intended. 

Thanks for your attention all, hopefully this may stop another confused soul from tearing their hair out!

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