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Hi,

I have got two questions about Affinity Photo.

  1. When I open an image (RAW) and click on "develop" to get from the Develop persona to the Photo persona, the look of the picture changes dramatically. The picture gets very dark and dull. Is this the normal behaviour? o.O
  2. When I change the color profile in the Develop persona the colors do not change. Or at least I think that they do not change. Is there a test color profile I could use to check this better?

Thanks,
Mark

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On 12/29/2019 at 2:39 PM, Mark-S said:

When I open an image (RAW) and click on "develop" to get from the Develop persona to the Photo persona, the look of the picture changes dramatically. The picture gets very dark and dull. Is this the normal behaviour?

Welcome to the Serif Affinity Forums, Mark.

That can be normal behavior, depending on what adjustments you may have made, the color profile you're using, and the color space you're developing to, the kind of monitor you're using, and the OS, and possibly other factors. More information would be needed.

On 12/29/2019 at 2:39 PM, Mark-S said:

When I change the color profile in the Develop persona the colors do not change. Or at least I think that they do not change. Is there a test color profile I could use to check this better?

As these are for Output, I'm not sure they should change the on-screen appearance. What I see, though, is a brief change, then it seems to go back to what it was. But, the Histogram does change.

Someone who knows more about this, either on Serif staff or another user, would have to comment further.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

Welcome to the Serif Affinity Forums, Mark.

That can be normal behavior, depending on what adjustments you may have made, the color profile you're using, and the color space you're developing to, the kind of monitor you're using, and the OS, and possibly other factors. More information would be needed. 

As these are for Output, I'm not sure they should change the on-screen appearance. What I see, though, is a brief change, then it seems to go back to what it was. But, the Histogram does change. 

Someone who knows more about this, either on Serif staff or another user, would have to comment further.

Thanks for your reply.

I tried to reproduce this issue, but I could not. I think that the output profile got stuck somehow. After a restart it works.

Regarding my second question: I want to calibrate the colors with a tool called ColorChecker Passport (https://de.xritephoto.eu/colorchecker-passport-photo-2-5340.html). It is important to me, to see the changes in the "develop persona" to correctly adjust the exposure and white balance in this persona. In Lightroom I could do this without a problem. Am I using it wrong with Affinity Photo?

Edited by Mark-S
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Posted

Ah, I found my mistake. The ICC profile can be assigned in the document tab (photo persona). The profile option in the develop persona is only for the color profile that should be used. Am I right? ^_^

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The Output Profile you specify in the Develop Persona should be the one that gets assigned to the image when you click Develop, I believe.

There should be no need to reassign it in the Photo Persona.

If you don't set an override profile in the Develop Persona then you should end up with the profile you specified in Preferences, Color, for the color space you're developing to (which is set in the options in the Develop Assistant).

 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

Posted
5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

The Output Profile you specify in the Develop Persona should be the one that gets assigned to the image when you click Develop, I believe.

There should be no need to reassign it in the Photo Persona.

If you don't set an override profile in the Develop Persona then you should end up with the profile you specified in Preferences, Color, for the color space you're developing to (which is set in the options in the Develop Assistant).

 

Yeah, I have mistaken the color space profile for the camera color profile. Thanks :)

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You're welcome.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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