jerwin Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I'm doing some technical drawing, and it suits me to label certain curves with the names of parts they represent. Thus,. I might have a curve that should be labeled "Fig 11". Unfortunately, the act of labeling a curve can result it being labeled as "F", the selection of the fill tool, and an opacity of 11 percent. Not what I want. Is there a preference change I can make that can better interpret my typing style/keyboard? (MacOS 10.14) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I don’t get this on Windows. Exactly how are you “labelling” things? The normal way to name a layer is to click on the name – to the right of the layer thumbnail in the Layers Panel – and type the name you want. Is this what you are doing, or something else? For instance, are you creating a text layer to add a label? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 That's very strange. Like GarryP, I'm not seeing that behavior either. Quote macOS 10.15.7 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerwin Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, GarryP said: The normal way to name a layer is to click on the name – to the right of the layer thumbnail in the Layers Panel – and type the name you want. Is this what you are doing, or something else? I'm double clicking the name. It's intermittent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, jerwin said: I'm double clicking the name. It's intermittent. As long as the name text field in the Layers panel is highlighted or the text cursor is visible in it, it should accept any normal text character you type except ones like Return, Tab, or Enter that exit text entry mode in that field. If this is intermittent for you, is it possible you have sometimes accidentally typed one of those characters or clicked outside the text field? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 It’s possible to double-click outside the layer name – just above or below the text, or to the left of the checkbox – without opening the name for editing. When this happens the name isn’t editable and the normal shortcut keys will be in effect. When the issue you’re having comes up have you noticed if the layer name is editable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerwin Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 My double click speed (In System preferences) was set to be somewhat low. I've increased the speed towards a middle value. I'm getting slightly better results. Here's the sequence of events: user double clicks on element name element name becomes editable. user types "F" element name reverts to label ("F") in blink of the eye user/keyboard buffer types "ig space 17", which sets the fill to 17 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Thank you for the steps jerkin but I still can’t reproduce it. “element name reverts to label ("F") in blink of the eye” After typing F the name field remains active and waiting for me to type another character. It will only close if I leave it by click anywhere outside of it or by hitting the Return key. “user/keyboard buffer types "ig space 17", “ Sorry, but I don’t understand this line. Can you clarify it? Quote macOS 10.15.7 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted December 16, 2019 Staff Share Posted December 16, 2019 Hi jerwin Thanks for your report - this has been reported previously and is currently logged with our developers. This issue arises when double clicking to change the Layer name. Renaming only takes one click, so with an unselected Layer object double clicking causes it to get selected and then begin the rename, then the second click cancels the first click which causes the behaviour you've described. I'll bump this dev report with your thread now - please not this issue affects Mac only and not Windows. I hope this helps! Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Dan C said: This issue arises when double clicking to change the Layer name. Renaming only takes one click, so with an unselected Layer object double clicking causes it to get selected and then begin the rename, then the second click cancels the first click which causes the behaviour you've described. I'll bump this dev report with your thread now - please not this issue affects Mac only and not Windows. This does not happen on my iMac: if I click on an unselected layer object in the Layers panel, it just selects (highlights) it. It takes a second click on the name field to enter text entry mode & at that time I can enter as many characters as I want. It also does not matter if the layer already has a name & I am trying to rename it or if it has no name other than the layer type in parentheses. So is this maybe an issue only for certain macOS versions or something like that? Dan C 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted December 16, 2019 Staff Share Posted December 16, 2019 Apologies, in all honesty I copied this verbatim from the report and did not check this behaviour. I'll inform our QA team this recipe is not correct and have them provide further testing across OS versions & update the report as required. Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, R C-R said: So is this maybe an issue only for certain macOS versions or something like that? Well that's definitely something to be considered R C-R. Having said that, I'm on the same OS as the original poster and I still can not reproduce this problem. Quote macOS 10.15.7 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvanderzee Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I have the same issue. It's really frustrating. I'm on a Mac, dont' know if Windows has the same issue. What happens is: 1. I want to rename a layer. 2. Double click the layer name, so I can edit the text. 3. When I start typing, the layer loose it's focus. So, I'm not editing the text anymore. I have to double click it again to continue renaming. It won't happen when I enter text very very slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, wvanderzee said: Double click the layer name, so I can edit the text. Double-clicking should not be necessary. Does the issue occur if you simply single-click on the layer name? If not, that is your workaround until Serif figures out what is happening to some users. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvanderzee Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Quote Double-clicking should not be necessary. Single-click doesn't work for me. When single-clicking the layer, the layer name isn't editable. I have to double click the layer name to edit it. I'm on a Mac, maybe that's the difference. As fas as I know, this works the same in other applications that uses layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If the layer is already selected, ie highlighted, it only takes one click in the text box for me to activate it. If a layer is not already selected, ie not highlighted, then it takes two clicks to activate the text box. With the first of these two clicks being used just to select, ie highlight, the layer. Quote macOS 10.15.7 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, markw said: If the layer is already selected, ie highlighted, it only takes one click in the text box for me to activate it. If a layer is not already selected, ie not highlighted, then it takes two clicks to activate the text box. With the first of these two clicks being used just to select, ie highlight, the layer. That is exactly how it works for me as well. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvanderzee Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Ah, I see now. Just not used to it I guess. One thing though, the text isn't instantly selected. So with the second click, it takes almost like a second to activate. Thx for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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