vito Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 So I have layers of lineart. In photoshop I use to enlarge the file and in order to show stronger lines ( with less grey pixels around them) I use to go to filters and then Sharpen. I use to do it over and over again for every layer and multiple times on the same one if I need to. The sharpening filters are doing nothing on my lines in affinity photo. Maybe they've a better use for photographs? How do I solve My problem? Cheers Help please Quote
John Rostron Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Are the layers you are trying to sharpen pixel layers? (With (Pixel) after the layer name.) If not, the use Layer > Rasterise. John Quote Windows 11, Affinity Photo 2.4.2 Designer 2.4.2 and Publisher 2.4.2 (mainly Photo). CPU: Intel Core i5 8500 @ 3.00GHz. RAM: 32.0GB DDR4 @ 1063MHz, Graphics: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
vito Posted December 5, 2019 Author Posted December 5, 2019 Of Course... I'm talking about Photoshop and affinity photo... Quote
firstdefence Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, vito said: Of Course... I'm talking about Photoshop and affinity photo... Affinity Photo can have (Pixel) layers, (Image) layers and more. An (image) layer isn't as editable as a (Pixel) layer, so John was asking if the photo was an Image layer and if it was to Right click and select Rasterise to make it a (Pixel) layer so that you have more options for editing. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
walt.farrell Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Perhaps you could make a sample .afphoto document with some example lineart that you're having trouble sharpening, @vito, and attach it here for us to look at. That's probably the best way to get good answers. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
vito Posted December 5, 2019 Author Posted December 5, 2019 These two images are in photoshop. First is normal . second is after using filter, sharpen. If i try all 3 sharpening filters in affinity they don't do this. I need to do this. fast and efficiently Quote
walt.farrell Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Again, it would help to have an actual .afphoto file that you're having trouble with, @vito. Screenshots are a poor substitute, especially screenshots from another application. Please give us a file. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
vito Posted December 5, 2019 Author Posted December 5, 2019 As you wish. this is a line on a canvas. I need to sharpen the line. I know slow tricky process. I need a fast and efficient one. like the sharpen filter in photoshop. the line.afphoto Quote
firstdefence Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Duplicating appears to work best, so, Duplicate (Cmd + J) the layer 10x Right click on the top layer and select Merge Visible Delete the layers below the top layer. Repeat steps 1 to 3 again Repeat steps 1 to 3 again but on step one do it 5x You should end up with something like this Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
walt.farrell Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Here's an Unsharp Mask applied 5 times (with radius and factor maximized) on the left, and the original at the same scale on the right: Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
vito Posted December 6, 2019 Author Posted December 6, 2019 I like it . I like both answers they're both working fine to me. About Walt.Farrel your procedure is working only if I use Linear Light as a blending mode. Thank you very much for your kindness. Quote
walt.farrell Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 4 hours ago, vito said: About Walt.Farrel your procedure is working only if I use Linear Light as a blending mode. I used Normal as the layer blend mode, vito. That was simply your image, with Photo's Filters > Sharpen > Unsharp Mask applied 5 times to the pixel layer. I was very puzzled by your earlier comment that none of the sharpening did anything, because Unsharp Mask (with appropriately high slider settings) has an immediately obvious affect, even used once. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
R C-R Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 14 hours ago, walt.farrell said: I was very puzzled by your earlier comment that none of the sharpening did anything, because Unsharp Mask (with appropriately high slider settings) has an immediately obvious affect, even used once. For some reason, on my Mac that filter has no effect on Vito's line, regardless of the slider settings. Neither does the live version or the Sharpen Tool. To have any effect, I have to change the color of at least part of the line from black to something else. I suspect I am overlooking something but I can't figure out what it is. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
carl123 Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 1 3 hours ago, R C-R said: For some reason, on my Mac that filter has no effect on Vito's line, regardless of the slider settings. Neither does the live version or the Sharpen Tool. This has no effect for me either (Windows 8.1) R C-R 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
Alfred Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 If you start by exporting the image to JPEG to get rid of the transparency, you can open the exported image in Affinity Photo and apply a Threshold adjustment. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
R C-R Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Alfred said: If you start by exporting the image to JPEG to get rid of the transparency ... Alfred, if you use the OP's file as is, on your PC does applying the Unsharp Mask as @walt.farrell suggested do anything? Prompted by your mention of transparency, instead of exporting to jpeg, I tried merging the original layer with a white rectangle placed behind it & then applying the Unsharp Mask filter to the merged layer. That did have an effect, although it left rough edges (left image). I also tried getting rid of the transparency via Select > Alpha Range > Fully Transparent & then using the Flood Fill Tool to fill the selection with white, which produced an Unsharp Mask effect like in the right image. Anyway, it seems that the Unsharp Mask doesn't touch transparent (or partially transparent?) pixels, which is why neither I nor @carl123 saw it do anything. Does that make sense? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Alfred Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 13 hours ago, R C-R said: Anyway, it seems that the Unsharp Mask doesn't touch transparent (or partially transparent?) pixels, which is why neither I nor @carl123 saw it do anything. Does that make sense? That sounds as though it makes sense! I’ll try to remember to test this the next time I’m on my Windows machine. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
walt.farrell Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 13 hours ago, R C-R said: Anyway, it seems that the Unsharp Mask doesn't touch transparent (or partially transparent?) pixels, which is why neither I nor @carl123 saw it do anything. But does not explain why it works fine on that image for me... Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
firstdefence Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Same as Alfred and R C-R for me, with the file as-is unsharp mask has no effect, but, create a white rectangle underneath and merge visible and you will see the effect of the unsharp mask, in that instance, as Alfred has said, a threshold filter is far more effective and it's flexible so you can choose the right amount of threshold to get the shape you want. https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/unsharp-mask.htm R C-R 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
R C-R Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, firstdefence said: Same as Alfred and R C-R for me, with the file as-is unsharp mask has no effect ... So we still do not have an explanation for why @walt.farrell gets an effect. Curious. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
firstdefence Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 4 hours ago, R C-R said: So we still do not have an explanation for why @walt.farrell gets an effect. Curious. Just tried on a windows 10 system and from a straight open, and the use of the unsharp mask, it does the same thing as on Mac. I have no idea what Walt did, but using either the destructive and non-destructive unsharp mask has no affect. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
walt.farrell Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, firstdefence said: I have no idea what Walt did, but using either the destructive and non-destructive unsharp mask has no affect I opened the file, used Filters > Sharpen > Unsharp Mask... and dragged the top two sliders all the way up. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
R C-R Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: I opened the file, used Filters > Sharpen > Unsharp Mask... and dragged the top two sliders all the way up. So did I, but that had no effect. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
v_kyr Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 When tried with the OP's file, the unsharp mask filter doesn't have any effect under MacOS, but just duplicating the layers will instead. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
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