dbrear Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Has anyone else found that CTRL-ALT-UP gives exactly the same result as Alt-UP? Kal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, dbrear said: Has anyone else found that CTRL-ALT-UP gives exactly the same result as Alt-UP? No. Though I do find that Alt+Up give a smaller decrease than Ctrl+Alt+Up, and I have a hard time considering the Ctrl+Alt+Up as being a more "precise" decrease. With 12 pt Arial text (12.4 pt leading) Alt+Up gives me an 11 pt leading (1.4 pt decrease) and Ctrl+Alt+Up gives me 9.9 pt leading (2.5 pt decrease). I would have expected, perhaps, a "precise" decrease as being 1/10 of the amount of a non-precise decrease, so perhaps Ctrl+Alt+Up should have given a .14 pt decrease. What OS do you use? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Yep, pretty much the same result for me on macOS (comparing Option-Up to Command-Option-Up). The so-called 'precise' option is ever so slightly less, but both are a massive adjustment. Curiously, if I choose 'Paragraph Leading > Decrease' from the menu, it moves about half as much as using the shortcut! Not sure I've ever seen a menu command with a listed shortcut behave completely differently to the shortcut itself—in any Mac program ever. Seriously strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Similarly, I have this issue with tracking. I wish the "precise" setting were 1 or 2‰ than 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 With text sizing, both the shortcut and the menu commands work as expected. Although I intensely dislike that Publisher changes the increment by a factor of 10 when you cross the 10 point threshold. (Above 10 points gives you a 1 point standard increment, while 10 or less gives you a 0.1 point increment.) This is a classic example of when software oversteps the line in trying to make 'helpful' assumptions better left to the user. I want complete control over these kinds of settings (like I have in InDesign). I guess this is the approach Affinity has taken to give us a bare-bones preference pane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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