Nieck Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 When I print a document with text only in Affinity Publisher in a size of 10 point the text will be rasterized. I changed the color from CMYK (100% Black used only) to Greyness 0. This made no difference. As a test I printed the same text page from InDesign CS5 and there is no rasterization. In the image in the left is the print from Affiniy Publisher and on the right from Indesign CS5. I work on a Mac Book Pro 10.13.6 and the printer is A HP Laserjet 2300. Does someone know what I could do to avoid the rasterization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Can you share the Publisher file here? Usually there is a real reason in the file for rasterization as this should not be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieck Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Fixx said: Can you share the Publisher file here? Usually there is a real reason in the file for rasterization as this should not be happening. that means that I also need to enclose the font that I am working on or do you want me to outline the text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just send the APu file. No outline, no font. I guess there is an effect assigned to the text frame. Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieck Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Enclosed is the file, I hope you can find something. Typist Code-AP.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 ? I can't see why this page should be rasterised. No effects, just text. The only "problem" I can see, is that the text is not 100% Black. Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieck Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Joachim_L said: ? I can't see why this page should be rasterised. No effects, just text. The only "problem" I can see, is that the text is not 100% Black. Thanks for looking. I tried with 100% Black when text is set in CMYK, no difference. The text is still rasterized when printing. Hope someone else in this forum can give some answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Text is rich black which means C72M68Y67K88. It will print halftoned. Make it 100K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieck Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fixx said: Text is rich black which means C72M68Y67K88. It will print halftoned. Make it 100K. Thank you for your reaction. I set the black on 100k as you can see. Unfortunatly the rasterisation is still on. On the left is a print directly from AP and on the right is the result when I first make a pdf and made a print from the pdf. For this moment it works to have a good testprint but I really hope this will be solved. It looks like a bug in AP to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRH Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Could it be the print 'quality' settings in the print dialogue being set to 'draft' instead of 'High Quality'? Quote Mac Pro (Mid 2010) 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 16GB RAM - ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB - Asus ProArt 24" 1920 x 1200 iMac 2017 Quad-Core Intel 2.4GHz Cor i5 - 21.5'' Retina 4K - 8Gb RAM - 1TB Fusion drive - Radion Pro 560 4GB - Ventura 13.0.1 Dell Inspiron 15 7000 Series 7559 - i7 6700HQ - 16Mb RAM - 128Gb SSD 1Tb HD - Nvidia GEFORCE GTX 960M 4Gb GDDR5 RAM - 4K Asus N56V i7 3630QM 2.40GHz; 8Mb RAM; 1Tb HD; 64 bit. Nvidia GT 650M 2Gb: 1920 x 1080 - 2nd Monitor: Asus ProArt 24": 1920 x 1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, GRH said: Could it be the print 'quality' Yes, this isn't rasterization problem. Printing image is always rasterized, because printer isn’t vector device as plotter. It is obvious from the picture that the letters are rendered correctly/cleanly, but a dotted/dashed line is used - something like econo mode to save toner. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Nieck said: I set the black on 100k as you can see. The file you provided had rich black. And no, this is not a rasterization problem but halftoning problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nieck Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Thank you all for the reactions. I looked (again) in my printer settings and tried different settings. Nothing helped, sometimes the prints even get more worse. Enclosed are the used printer- and color settings. Is it possible that somewhere in AF settings there is something that cause this problem? Because when I print the same text on the same printer from CS5 everything is right. Even when I made a pdf in AF and print that on the same printer with the settings I normally use the text is not rasterized/halftoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nieck said: Even when I made a pdf in AF and print that on the same printer with the settings I normally use the text is not rasterized/halftoning. Well, if the APub doc when exported as PDF then afterwards prints fine, it sounds overall more like an APub related printing bug here. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nieck Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, v_kyr said: Well, if the APub doc when exported as PDF then afterwards prints fine, it sounds overall more like an APub related printing bug here. Yes, that is what I assume also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieck Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 31 minutes ago, Lagarto said: Try changing these settings. Contrary to what I assumed above, it seems that by default Affinity apps also send colors as RGB composite to a local printer. Usually it is a good idea to leave color handling to app (rather than to printer), but trying with different settings should allow you to fix the problem. (But there is point in ensuring first that you do not have any of the ink/toner saving settings turned on in the printer driver; these settings are app specific so if you get desired quality when printing from another app, it can also be explained by having used different settings there.) Lagarto, can you please tell me where I can find this panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leechi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 my money is on lagarto or your printing cartridge runs out of ink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nieck Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lagarto said: It is in the Printer dialog box (File > Print), then "Color Management" in the lower left box of different print options. Thank you Lagarto. I also tried this and changed the settings. Nothing changed, even when I choose another typeface it will be rasterized/halftoning. Sorry, I quit with AP for the moment. It is so frustrating for everyone that is helping me and nothing changed. Thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leechi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 possible that when directly printing from publisher he uses a pixel version he cached for displaying the font and not using the actual font. just write PDFs mane, its the proper workflow and seems to work no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieck Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Lagarto said: Just to confirm, was the screenshot taken when you accessed the printer driver from within Publisher (or when accessing it from within some other app, or via Control Panel / System Preferences)? The screenshot was indeed made within Publisher. But I think (hope) I found the solution. In the Document Setup -> Colour the Colour Format was on CMYK/8 and the Colour Profile was (the default) W.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2. When I switched this to Grey/16 and Black& White the print was good. I could not imagine that it would be a problem so far, it doesn't matter in InDesign. Thanks everyone for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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