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Refine edge - square, bad looking edge in Affinity Photo

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Hi!

I found that cutting backgrounds in product photos I've have to work on is somewhat tricky in Affinity Photo. I try to switch from PS to AP, but similar functions in both programs gives different effects.

See attachments and you see squared edges in AP, and smooth (no feather etc.) edge in PS.

Any suggestions?

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Hi Pudens :)

When selecting in Affinity Photo, did you use the Refine option? It may be that PS are automatically applying smoothing (feathering) to your selection, whereas this is not the case in AP. I recommend creating your selection, then using the Refine options to smooth your selection before applying it. Does this produce cleaner results for you?

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Yes, I use Refine with "matte edge" tuned off, because when it's on, on any setting, egdes are way too soft (specially seen in corners). So, both refine settings are bad for me... :)

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I am in the same spot, coming from PS and learning again the basics and I cannot understand how this feature works. I do not want to use  "Matte edges" yet it seems that I need to have it turned on to have any other effect applied in the Refine panel to kick in. Some other images with which I have used this feature (with a background that could not be simply be flood selected but where I had to use polygon select tool to define the edge), I think I have been able to turn off "Matte edges", and been able to adjust the selection by using all these other parameters (border, smoothing, feathering, and ramp), but not here.

However, I do not think that using "Matte" and then turning off border and any other automatically applied refinement settings produces a bad cut-out. See attachment.

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Those internal parts where something that i initially missed and then just used the flood selector without refinement to cut them out so they are worse than the outer edges where refinement was applied. I have not used the selection tools of Photo long enough to use them effectively and they work a bit differently than in Photoshop (where the combination of shift edge, smooth and contrast help you create perfect cut-outs for these kinds of objects with uniform background) .  

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1 hour ago, Lagarto said:

Those internal parts where something that i initially missed and then just used the flood selector without refinement to cut them out so they are worse than the outer edges where refinement was applied. I have not used the selection tools of Photo long enough to use them effectively and they work a bit differently than in Photoshop (where the combination of shift edge, smooth and contrast help you create perfect cut-outs for these kinds of objects with uniform background) .

Ok, ok. I see.

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47 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

Why not use the pen tool to do this, you have a continuously editable mask and you can add a very slight gaussian blur to haze the edge.

 

I love pen tool and prefer to make mask via paths. Usually I have not 5 or 10 pictures to cut backgrounds off, but hundreds of products photos. Tools that automate selections saves a lot of my work time. :)

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54 minutes ago, Pudens said:

I love pen tool and prefer to make mask via paths. Usually I have not 5 or 10 pictures to cut backgrounds off, but hundreds of products photos. Tools that automate selections saves a lot of my work time. :)

Ah, yes, not very practical using the pen.

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Apologies for the delayed response Pudens! If you select the watch using the selection brush, then enter Refine Selection and add 2px worth of Smoothing and Feathering, then apply your selection - does this provide more desirable results?

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