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I have a linked .ai image placed on a master page, and I have the automatic update option turned on.

When I change the image in Illustrator and save it, I get the notification that the linked image has been updated and I see the changes on the master, but the page to which the master is applied does not update -- somehow it keeps the old version of the image, even though the old version of the image file no longer exists on disk. This makes me think the image is linked on the master page, but it's embedded everywhere else, or something like that? Very strange.

Anyway, I have to re-apply the master to the page in order to see the updated image. I would expect that master updates always automatically go onto the page, especially for linked images.

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Hi Gabe, thanks -- here you go, and some screenshots too. The only strange thing about my setup is that the afpub is currently on my desktop, while the .ai file is in a folder under Documents. I haven't tried putting them in the same folder to see if that makes a difference. The document was initially created with the automatic updating option turned off, though it has always been "Linked preferred". 

 

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pinecroft-logo-white.ai

pinecroft-12509.afpub

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41 minutes ago, markabur said:

The only strange thing about my setup is that the afpub is currently on my desktop, while the .ai file is in a folder under Documents.

The pinecroft-logo-white.ai file is listed on my Mac after downloading it as "pinecroft-logo-white.ai.ps" After removing the .ps things worked okay, meaning I didn't get a crash.

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I'm not sure why that would be -- it's "pinecroft-logo-white.ai" on my machine. I'm not getting any sort of crashing, just a lack of updating on the non-master page.

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Perhaps because I downloaded from the forum, and I don't have Illustrator on my machine.

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That could be. What's happening for me is very strange, if the image is truly linked. It prints the old version of the logo, even though it no longer exists. It seems to be using embedded image data, even though all the images are supposedly linked. Actually the filesize supports this idea, as it's 4.1MB with the so-called "linked" images, but drops to 10KB when I delete the images. 

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Great, thanks. To me the biggest problem is that "linked" doesn't really mean linked -- as in, the linked file isn't read from the hard drive when the page is printed. It seems that linked files are embedded, and they get re-embedded when the link is updated. I guess that means linked images don't actually need to be present at the time of printing?

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15 minutes ago, markabur said:

. It seems that linked files are embedded

That is true, currently, for Linked documents. Only Linked images (JPG, TIFF, PNG) are truly and completely Linked in 1.7. Linked documents, in 1.7, are Embedded but have some of the characteristics of truly Linked files (ability to detect changes, primarily).

1.8 is making some changes in this area.


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