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Do I misunderstand assets? Why no drag into frame?

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I may be suffering from noobie syndrome as I'm relatively new to Affinity Publisher and came from Adobe inDesign. So far I have been very pleased with the product and produced my first printed brochure over a weekend, so my complaint is in context that I think it is a great app and worth exploring for more complex projects. 

It is currently not possible to drag an image in an asset library into a picture frame in a document.  

I am scratching my head wondering what the point of the assets capability is, if it cannot be used to populate templates/master pages in documents.  I have created a set of assets that I want to re-use in a variety of different documents and yet the only way I can find to use them is to do the following 

a) drag from the assets library onto the document

b) convert the placed image using context-click -> Convert to picture frame

c) manually resize the picture frame to what I need 

d) repeat for each asset I need to use. 

Instead I feel I should simply be able to drag the asset to a picture frame and have it follow the rules defined for the picture frame (re: sizing/aspect ratio). 

After all I can do this with a random image from the finder... maybe I'm using the assets incorrectly. Maybe I don't need them at all, though it does seem, convenient as a way of organising reusable content.   

I guess my expectations have been set by a variety of products I've used over the last couple of decades where this kind of behaviour is normal. It might not be me, but the behaviour is highly unintuitive and I would class it as a UX defect as such. 

Is it just me? 

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26 minutes ago, free1000 said:

Is it just me? 

In general you cannot drag an object that is already in your document into a Picture Frame by operating on the page. For example, if you Place a JPG file onto a page, then try to drag it onto a picture frame that is on the page, it won't work. You would have to Copy it, and then Paste as Content, or use the Layers panel. The intended use of Picture Frames is really via File > Place or the Place Image Tool, I think.,

Your experience with your Assets is at least consistent with these other cases.

I agree that it would be nice to be able to drag an Asset into a Picture Frame, and perhaps that's something that Serif will consider in the future. For now, you would need to use File > Place or the Place Image Tool, or drag it from an external Finder or File Explorer window, I think.

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I understand.  I guess I'm having some problem understanding how one would use assets if they can't be flowed into frames in a document template I've already constructed. 

Right now I'm thinking that it's far better to just keep assets in a folder in the operating system as a) they can be multiply placed (flowed)  b) they can be edited over time as adjustments are made.  This is what I'll now do for my current project (photobook).

The only benefit I can see in using the asset libraries is the ability to both embed them in a document and distribute that as a unit to allow someone else to make changes without the hassle of finding the source somewhere on a network, while having the ability to embed them in a number of different documents to standardise the use of eg: logos, branding. 

However of those two benefits, the latter would be enhanced by being able to place or flow the assets in the template. 

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I'd just add that I'm pretty bowled over by the quality and utility of Affinity Publisher coupled with Affinity Photo for photobook and brochure making and printing. My nitpicking on the assets side is just that picking nits. 

Being able to flip in and out of the Publish and Photo personas is a really great thing. 

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On 11/9/2019 at 12:16 PM, free1000 said:

The only benefit I can see in using the asset libraries (...)

The benefit of an asset does increase with its complexity.

Different to a single pixel image a multi line/shape graphic like a logo for instance, or a text frame with a specific column + indent setting + some text styles, can be a handy time saver when used as assets. Or you can have (empty) picture frames in specific sizes as assets to use them in a custom layout grid to fill them with content via drag/drop from your finder/explorer.



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+1 to being able to place assets into frames.

I would love to have this feature as well. It seems intuitive to use the Assets panel to place images into picture frames like the Stock Panel does and I was surprised I couldn't.

I'm currently using 2 monitors so having the Affinity Publisher application and Explorer window open isn't too cumbersome. Once the Affinity Publisher makes it into iPad (I can't wait!!!), I can probably load the Affinity Publisher app and Files app in split-view but the screen real estate is diminished.

Edited by inkedcode
added *like the Stock panel does* for reference

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