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Between front matter and the beginning of the novel, I've inserted two pages, using Master A. (see screenshot).

The Master tooltip, however, displays it wrongly, pretending this were Master B.

There's another problem with those tooltips. On spreads with two Master Pages, they often get the order wrong. The tooltip shows:

Master B (top position in tooltip)
Master A (bottom position)

even though the Master on the left hand side is Master A. I think top position should be aligned with left page, bottom with right.

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16 minutes ago, Interior Book Design said:

And what is this supposed to be? A triple Master? Another proof that the tooltip tells fairytales.

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If you have a facing-page spread, with Master A applied, the tooltip will only show Master A applied once as that single Master Page includes both the left- and right-hand pages of the spread.

If the tooltip shows two masters with different names then you applied each of them to the spread. If it shows the same master twice, then you applied that master twice.

If it shows 3 (e.g, B, A, A as in your example) then you have applied Master A twice, and Master B once, to that spread.

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3 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

If you have a facing-page spread, with Master A applied, the tooltip will only show Master A applied once as that single Master Page includes both the left- and right-hand pages of the spread.

Okay, makes sense.

If the tooltip shows two masters with different names then you applied each of them to the spread.

Okay, but the information is not precise. One would assume the master on top of the tooltip is the master of the first page of the spread, the left-hand page. This is not the case.

If it shows the same master twice, then you applied that master twice.

Maybe, but what is this good for? If I apply that master a third time, I have B, A, again.

If it shows 3 (e.g, B, A, A as in your example) then you have applied Master A twice, and Master B once, to that spread.

Very informative and precise. Exactly the information, I need ;-)
Sorry, it can't be meant this way.

 

Walt, I'm not convinced.

Look at my attached screenshot. This is the way it should be and this is how DTP programs have been handling it for decades.

  • simple
  • intuitive
  • no guesswork
  • no bugs in displaying information

The image comes from PagePlus, by the way.

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That is not the way that Publisher handles it. And it is not relevant how PagePlus or other DTP programs do it or have done it. Each program will do some things differently, and you need to adjust to and learn what a new program does.

Your 2-page Master spread A has both the left- and right-hand pages on it, and when applied to a document spread the document spread will show only 1 master (A), and in the layers panel you'll have only 1 master layer for A, with both the left- and right-hand content on it, as shown below:

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-- Walt
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