chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 VERSION: (Windows 10) This is a verfy simple shape, and Designer won't boolean difference the hole in the middle. If I drag the hole to the right, so that it is intersecting it, it works, but not in the middle. Is this a bug? The file is below... booleanbug.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just trying to set the Notify me of Replies-- guess you can't do that once you create a post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, chippwalters said: VERSION: (Windows 10) This is a verfy simple shape, and Designer won't boolean difference the hole in the middle. If I drag the hole to the right, so that it is intersecting it, it works, but not in the middle. Is this a bug? The file is below... booleanbug.afdesign Other programs do it right, so I would say it is a bug. Apparently (...) the boolean bread and butter algorithms in the Affinity suite is still work in progress (...) so perhaps some other day.. To make you happy, nonetheless, a workaround ... that is not exactly easy to figure out for the average user: Select both shapes Alt + click the subtract button (boolean difference) [Makes a compound shape instead] Select Layers - Convert to curves (or Control + return) One shape. The vector department in all Affinity programs is pretty weak, so consider Inkscape , Xara or Gravit Designer for shape construction as a supplement. Or of course Adobe Illustrator, Corel Draw etc. etc. etc. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Thanks for your feedback. Wow, I have to say I'm surprised. I really was hoping I could quit Illustrator and start working with Designer, but apparently not. Too bad, as I really like Designer's workflow and interface. BTW, Simplify is also a command I'm missing in Designer. Jowday and BubbleBla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palatino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, chippwalters said: Is this a bug? No, that's not Bug. Quote Thanks to DeepL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, Lagarto said: It seemed to have Layer > Fill Mode > Winding mode on, change it to Alternate, and the hole will show (once the inner curve has been subtracted). That is extremely obtuse. How did you figure that out? (btw, it was an imported SVG file) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Thanks for the explanation. FWIW, I took the file into Illustrator (export as SVG) and performed the boolean correctly, then exprorted again to Designer to finish the design. I'm trying to force myself to use Designer and Photo as much as possible. I *really* want them to be my goto apps for 2D graphics. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palatino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, chippwalters said: FWIW, I took the file into Illustrator (export as SVG) and performed the boolean correctly, then exprorted again to Designer to finish the design. Why don't you use the functions of AF? Quote Thanks to DeepL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 What is AF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palatino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Affinity Designer? Quote Thanks to DeepL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippwalters Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 That's AD, not AF (AFAICT!). The reason is I posted the message 4 hours ago, the first answer was 2 hours later-- so I went to Illustrator to fix my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palatino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, chippwalters said: That's AD, not AF (AFAICT!) Yeah. I had a little cup of coffee first. Quote Thanks to DeepL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, chippwalters said: VERSION: (Windows 10) This is a verfy simple shape, and Designer won't boolean difference the hole in the middle. If I drag the hole to the right, so that it is intersecting it, it works, but not in the middle. Is this a bug? The file is below... booleanbug.afdesign Hey @chippwalters How did you create this example? In Illustrator or Designer? I remember I had a similar problem a year ago with some files from a logo designer. All created in Illustrator. Fill mode was also set to winding in those files. Bug or not... if you export your file to SVG and open it in various programs, this is what you get from diff/subtract with Winding (non zero): AD 1.8 beta: no hole Inkskape 0.92: no hole Adobe Illustrator 23.1: transparent hole Xara Designer (latest): transparent hole Gravit Designer 2.7: transparent hole and same result no matter how you configure the fill rule (keep holes or fill holes (non zero, Winding) Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (...) Jowday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickRose Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Alt Subtract works okay for what it's worth. Quote Windows 10 Pro, I5 3.3G PC 16G RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jowday Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 The fill mode doesn’t alter behavior in Illustrator or Gravit. The result is a transparent hole with either mode. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jowday Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Some usability notifications in these scenarios would be appropriate and more than helpful. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (...) Jowday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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