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  1. My inability to grasp concepts has been successfully demonstrated here before. I hope this will not be another reiteration of that. This time, I am failing to grasp Text Frame's Baseline Grid (BG), 'Relative to' setting. I have searched Help, alas no help was found. So, dear fellow humanoids, et al. help me please. (play file attached) Document BG is OFF. Text Frame's Ignore BG is OFF. Text frame's independent BG are ON. Text aligns to BG. Publisher help states: Start Position — specify the offset of the first grid line from the origin at Relative To. Relative To — specify what the baseline grid's starting position is in relation to. Alright, let's go to Text frame's BG panel and play with 'Relative to' setting: Top of Page Expectation: As stated, BG starting position is defined in relation to Top of Page... Top of Page becomes BG's fixed origin. I.e. Text frame's BG' first line would be anchored in relation to Top of Page and offset by 'start position' value. Moving text frame would 'appear' like a frame on an otherwise static baseline grid. This behavior would be very useful for maintaining baseline consistency overall in layouts with more than one BG system. Neat! Observed: Instead, it seems that BG is anchored to Text frame's top and it seems it behaves just like 'Top Inset' setting. 🤔 It seems that this setting is applied only when Text frame is created. Later it does not apply anymore. 🤨 Why? Top Margin Expectation: The same as above but page's Top Margin becomes BG's fixed origin.. I.e. Text frame's BG would be fixed in relation to Top margin. Increasing top margin by 1mm would make all relevant text frames' BG to move downwards 1mm. Observed: BG is again anchored to Text Frame's top. 🤔 But, I cannot find how this setting relates to anything pagey-top-margin-y, at all. Help. Top of Artboard Expectation: Not explored. I guess this applies to editing graphics from Designer? If so, IMHO, it should not be present in GUI if it does not apply to paged document. Observed: Seems to behave like 'Top of Frame' setting. Top Artboard Margin Expectation: Not explored. Again, I guess linked to editing graphics coming from Designer. Also, if so, IMHO, it should not be present in GUI if it does not apply to paged document. Observed: 🤨 Moving a text frame up/down with this setting produces a funky effect. (Multiply by -1 error?) Top of Frame Expectation: The first BG line is defined relative to Top of text frame. Observed: Behaves as expected. Top Inset Expectation: The first BG line is defined relative to Text frame's top inset. Observed: Behaves as expected. (Theme song: The Beatles: Help) Text frame baselines.afpub
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