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  1. Hi, I bought one of the official brush packs some time ago and on AP 1 it worked completely fine, but on AP 2 it's impossible to open without the app instantly crashing. I've not been able to isolate anything that can cause it, it happens regardless of what document I am working on. I've also tried to add the same brush pack by importing it again, but this does not resolve the issue. (Product name is DAUB@ W&W (specifically the Bristles subcategory)). (Desktop specs: 7 3700X, 3080 10GB, 32GB 3000MHz, running OS and app on M.2 SSD) I've added some crash reports, please let me know if you need anything else, I'd greatly appreciate some insight on why this is happening, I really need those brushes. PS: Is it at all related that WindowsApps folder and my local user folder has lost its data after the new install? Thank you a4aa3c5d-9063-4411-9ec4-0e60544f2744.dmp 81282162-8c41-430d-8aa9-85465668a404.dmp 40a4c99d-8511-4783-af34-6324e46143aa.dmp 4968878b-6217-4f19-9d5c-f1255349e43a.dmp dbf69d9a-6260-4386-99b7-a99cae1e0c8c.dmp e0db7b7d-9c79-4080-a278-b9876c13c81a.dmp 60cc8d5a-f8a8-4b5d-a934-4205e87fdc56.dmp d1874a90-0d15-4ac9-a013-3ac848843800.dmp 9c1a0125-e8a1-41be-a6ee-b478faf71b9b.dmp 5f51369f-9cd2-44d1-87e2-a7d7d1080dca.dmp b45de208-653b-49a0-a71d-6b5fdfc0388b.dmp 58cc1d75-48d4-4398-9b08-cf3478b45835.dmp 01c2d4ef-89b8-4996-a11e-e3ecd88bbe55.dmp 7add9486-01e3-4c60-bc83-fe38d5241ad1.dmp 23dfefae-c8a1-4a78-a723-1bc61652301a.dmp
  2. Hi, I bought recently AFP 2.0. I am still using Monterey OS (I will install it when it is more stable). I have problems when trying to export any publisher document to PDF. I have never gone beyond a 10 spread document, as I need to test how it looks (the file size has ranged between 150 and 400 MB). I started using embedded files and then I swapped to linked files. I converted all my psd or jpg files to Affinity Photo 2 format, in case that was the problem. It makes no difference if it is RGB or CMYK, they both crash. It doesn't matter if I try to make a copy of the file and rename it, it won't stay open (the problem persists even if I close the program and restart the computer). Through the different releases I keep having the same problem. I am not sure what is happening. I manage to export to a PDF, but it is impossible to keep working on my original publisher file, crash, after crash, not even the time to save to a different file. Could you please help me to figure out how to solve the problem? I attach the beginning of the latest problem report. Thank you. Clemencia
  3. I am experiencing a crash immediately after trying to start the application. Splash screen goes away and process hangs. This is a fresh install of Affinity Designer 2 Event viewer is showing this exception from Designer.exe Application: Designer.exe Framework Version: v4.0.30319 Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception. Exception Info: System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.GetWindowText(System.Runtime.InteropServices.HandleRef, System.Text.StringBuilder, Int32) at System.Windows.Automation.Peers.WindowAutomationPeer.GetNameCore() at System.Windows.Automation.Peers.AutomationPeer.UpdateSubtree() at System.Windows.ContextLayoutManager.fireAutomationEvents() at System.Windows.ContextLayoutManager.UpdateLayout() at System.Windows.ContextLayoutManager.UpdateLayoutCallback(System.Object) at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.FireInvokeOnRenderCallbacks() at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.RenderMessageHandlerCore(System.Object) at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.RenderMessageHandler(System.Object) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate) at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl() at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.CallbackWrapper(System.Object) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object) at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.Run(MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object) at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke() at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue() at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef) at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr) at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame) at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(System.Object) at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window) at Designer.Application.Main(System.String[]) Possibly related to this?: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70799521/random-crash-in-wpf-application-invalid-index-at-ms-win32-unsafenativemethods Please advise.
  4. I attach a file. Each time I try to touch the WB controls in the Develop persona (with the image layer selected), Photo 2.0.3 crashes. System: iMac Pro running macOS 13.2 (22D49) 202301_M1A1717-1600.afphoto
  5. Hi, I recently transferred a file as psd from Lightroom 6.14 into Affinity Photo and opend it in the Develop Persona. First I ticked off all sections. Then I enabled White Balance (Weißabgleich ) Moving the Slider shows no change in the picture (the numberfield stays at 0%) After disabling and enabling the White Balance the change is visible, but the numberfield still has 0%. Resetting the White Balance causes a crash of Affinity Photo. Viele Grüße roland
  6. Hi guys, today I've worked on a new Designer file (file created today, 1 artboard, 2 linked images, some icons etc.). After exporting the file to a PDF I've quit the application. 2 hours later I tried to open the file again, but unfortunately Designer crashed immediately. I've tried it several times, no success (immediate crash when opening the file, not even a flicker of a preview). I've tried to open the file in Photo, but it also crashes. I *could* open the file in Publisher and it looks ok (although it complains that I have to convert artboards into pages, of course). Unfortunately I could not fix the file by saving it again from Publisher and trying to reopen it with Designer (still crashes). Any help in fixing the file would be greatly appreciated! If you are interested in the file (~15MB), I can send it to you. Also if you need more information, I'll gladly help. Thanks and all the best, Ole Ah before I forget: Designer/Photo/Publisher 2.0.3, Mac OS X 12.6.2, Macbook Pro 15" Retina 2015
  7. Hey there, Affinity Publisher Crashes everytime I try to copy and paste a Headline. The headline is part of a Table Of Content via activating "headline" in the table of content option panel. It has an endnote as well. If I try top copy and paste this element, Publisher crashes. Same goes for a whole field of text, which contains Table Of Content headlines. My guess is: it crashes, because the copied headline or any part containing an element of table of content, creates a conflict when about to be pasted so Publisher can't handle it. In that particular file, it its 100% reproducable. I hope you can fix it. Cheers
  8. File is saved, but sometimes crashes on exit. Same behavior with publisher. Haven't yet tried designer. All V2. On MAC Studio - running Ventura 13.0 See crash report from Photo below. ------------------------------------- Translated Report (Full Report Below) ------------------------------------- Process: Affinity Photo 2 [25858] Path: /Applications/Affinity Photo 2.app/Contents/MacOS/Affinity Photo 2 Identifier: com.seriflabs.affinityphoto2 Version: 2.0.0 (2.0.0) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1] User ID: 502 Date/Time: 2022-11-10 13:08:06.6099 -0500 OS Version: macOS 13.0 (22A380) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: 81C10BE7-AB0C-3524-47BE-16A819BFBFC4 Time Awake Since Boot: 880000 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000010 Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000010 Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11 Terminating Process: exc handler [25858] VM Region Info: 0x10 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 105553518919664 REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL UNUSED SPACE AT START ---> MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 600018000000-600020000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=NUL ...(unallocated) Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 liblibpersona.dylib 0x2891e0574 DocumentControllerSession::GetDocumentController() + 0 1 libcocoaui 0x128021204 -[LayersControlItemView drawAncestralBackground:] + 1320 2 libcocoaui 0x1280208e8 -[LayersControlItemView drawRect:] + 460 3 AppKit 0x19b8d5a70 _NSViewDrawRect + 124 4 AppKit 0x19bf87714 -[NSView _recursive:displayRectIgnoringOpacity:inContext:stopAtLayerBackedViews:] + 1088 5 AppKit 0x19b8d52e4 -[NSView(NSLayerKitGlue) _drawViewBackingLayer:inContext:drawingHandler:] + 556 6 QuartzCore 0x19fbc8520 CABackingStoreUpdate_ + 224 7 QuartzCore 0x19fc2427c invocation function for block in CA::Layer::display_() + 64 8 QuartzCore 0x19fbc76f8 -[CALayer _display] + 1644 9 AppKit 0x19b8d4fec -[_NSBackingLayer display] + 352 10 AppKit 0x19b866d0c -[_NSViewBackingLayer display] + 532 11 QuartzCore 0x19fbc687c CA::Layer::display_if_needed(CA::Transaction*) + 788 12 QuartzCore 0x19fd29df0 CA::Context::commit_transaction(CA::Transaction*, double, double*) + 468 13 QuartzCore 0x19fba8fe8 CA::Transaction::commit() + 652 14 AppKit 0x19b8e4b90 __62+[CATransaction(NSCATransaction) NS_setFlushesWithDisplayLink]_block_invoke + 272 15 AppKit 0x19bfc1744 ___NSRunLoopObserverCreateWithHandler_block_invoke + 64 16 CoreFoundation 0x198564de4 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_AN_OBSERVER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 36 17 CoreFoundation 0x198564cd0 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 532 18 CoreFoundation 0x198564308 __CFRunLoopRun + 784 19 CoreFoundation 0x1985638a4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 20 HIToolbox 0x1a1bd73bc RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292 21 HIToolbox 0x1a1bd704c ReceiveNextEventCommon + 236 22 HIToolbox 0x1a1bd6f48 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 72 23 AppKit 0x19b7bc630 _DPSNextEvent + 632 24 AppKit 0x19b7bb7c0 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 728 25 AppKit 0x19b963a70 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) trackEventsMatchingMask:timeout:mode:handler:] + 216 26 AppKit 0x19b962e30 -[NSDragEventTracker trackEvent:usingHandler:] + 1268 27 AppKit 0x19b9622d4 NSControlTrackMouse + 1088 28 AppKit 0x19b961e68 -[NSCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:] + 144 29 AppKit 0x19b961d20 -[NSButtonCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:] + 488 30 AppKit 0x19b9611ec -[NSControl mouseDown:] + 448 31 AppKit 0x19b95fce0 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _handleMouseDownEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 3420 32 AppKit 0x19b8e98f0 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 1984 33 AppKit 0x19b8e8f5c -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 284 34 AppKit 0x19b8e8094 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) sendEvent:] + 1920 35 libcocoaui 0x12868afe4 -[Application sendEvent:] + 1028 36 AppKit 0x19b9f5f04 -[NSApplication _doModalLoop:peek:] + 276 37 AppKit 0x19b9f4dd8 __35-[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]_block_invoke_2 + 56 38 AppKit 0x19b9f4d84 __35-[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]_block_invoke + 108 39 AppKit 0x19b9f4668 _NSTryRunModal + 100 40 AppKit 0x19b9f4528 -[NSApplication runModalForWindow:] + 292 41 AppKit 0x19bb2d4cc __19-[NSAlert runModal]_block_invoke_2 + 120 42 AppKit 0x19bb2d438 __19-[NSAlert runModal]_block_invoke + 108 43 AppKit 0x19b9f4668 _NSTryRunModal + 100 44 AppKit 0x19ba67654 -[NSAlert runModal] + 140 45 libcocoaui 0x1287a8e24 CocoaUIRunAlertPanel(NSString*, NSString*, NSString*, NSString*, NSString*, ...) + 328 46 libcocoaui 0x1287d0728 -[DocumentView closeView] + 1852 47 libcocoaui 0x127fc3594 -[AppController closeView:] + 92 48 libcocoaui 0x12864fec4 -[PersonaWindow closeAllDocumentViews] + 328 49 libcocoaui 0x12864fce4 -[PersonaWindow onCloseButtonClicked:] + 24 50 AppKit 0x19b9652f0 -[NSApplication(NSResponder) sendAction:to:from:] + 440 51 AppKit 0x19b965108 -[NSControl sendAction:to:] + 72 52 AppKit 0x19b96504c __26-[NSCell _sendActionFrom:]_block_invoke + 100 53 AppKit 0x19b964f74 -[NSCell _sendActionFrom:] + 204 54 AppKit 0x19b964e98 -[NSButtonCell _sendActionFrom:] + 88 55 AppKit 0x19b96245c NSControlTrackMouse + 1480 56 AppKit 0x19b961e68 -[NSCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:] + 144 57 AppKit 0x19b961d20 -[NSButtonCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:] + 488 58 AppKit 0x19b9611ec -[NSControl mouseDown:] + 448 59 AppKit 0x19b95fce0 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _handleMouseDownEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 3420 60 AppKit 0x19b8e98f0 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 1984 61 AppKit 0x19b8e8f5c -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 284 62 libcocoaui 0x128650fd4 -[PersonaWindow sendEvent:] + 456 63 AppKit 0x19b8e8094 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) sendEvent:] + 1920 64 libcocoaui 0x12868afe4 -[Application sendEvent:] + 1028 65 AppKit 0x19bb3a144 -[NSApplication _handleEvent:] + 60 66 AppKit 0x19b7afc14 -[NSApplication run] + 500 67 AppKit 0x19b787058 NSApplicationMain + 880 68 dyld 0x19815be50 start + 2544 Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x198446df0 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1984588d8 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844f638 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844716c mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x198565bdc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1985644c8 __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1985638a4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 CoreFoundation 0x1985ea818 CFRunLoopRun + 64 8 liblibipc.dylib 0x102ea7780 std::__1::__function::__func<Affinity::Interprocess::Communicators::MachCommunicator::StartAsServer()::$_1, std::__1::allocator<Affinity::Interprocess::Communicators::MachCommunicator::StartAsServer()::$_1>, void ()>::operator()() + 136 9 liblibkernel.dylib 0x108921594 invocation function for block in Kernel::Dispatch::DispatchAndForget(std::__1::function<void ()>, Kernel::Dispatch::DispatchPriority, Kernel::Dispatch::ThreadPurpose) + 148 10 libdispatch.dylib 0x1982fd9dc _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 32 11 libdispatch.dylib 0x1982ff504 _dispatch_client_callout + 20 12 libdispatch.dylib 0x1983025f0 _dispatch_queue_override_invoke + 788 13 libdispatch.dylib 0x198310f94 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 396 14 libdispatch.dylib 0x1983117c0 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 164 15 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1984820c4 _pthread_wqthread + 228 16 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e20 start_wqthread + 8 Thread 2:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x198446df0 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1984588d8 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844f638 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844716c mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x198565bdc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1985644c8 __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1985638a4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 CoreFoundation 0x1985ea818 CFRunLoopRun + 64 8 liblibipc.dylib 0x102ea75bc std::__1::__function::__func<Affinity::Interprocess::Communicators::MachCommunicator::StartAsClient(unsigned int, unsigned int)::$_0, std::__1::allocator<Affinity::Interprocess::Communicators::MachCommunicator::StartAsClient(unsigned int, unsigned int)::$_0>, void ()>::operator()() + 136 9 liblibkernel.dylib 0x108921594 invocation function for block in Kernel::Dispatch::DispatchAndForget(std::__1::function<void ()>, Kernel::Dispatch::DispatchPriority, Kernel::Dispatch::ThreadPurpose) + 148 10 libdispatch.dylib 0x1982fd9dc _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 32 11 libdispatch.dylib 0x1982ff504 _dispatch_client_callout + 20 12 libdispatch.dylib 0x1983025f0 _dispatch_queue_override_invoke + 788 13 libdispatch.dylib 0x198310f94 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 396 14 libdispatch.dylib 0x1983117c0 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 164 15 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1984820c4 _pthread_wqthread + 228 16 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e20 start_wqthread + 8 Thread 3:: com.apple.NSEventThread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x198446df0 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1984588d8 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844f638 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844716c mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x198565bdc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1985644c8 __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1985638a4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 AppKit 0x19b8e6248 _NSEventThread + 172 8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 4:: com.apple.NSURLConnectionLoader 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x198446df0 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1984588d8 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844f638 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844716c mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x198565bdc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1985644c8 __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1985638a4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 CFNetwork 0x19cf2cbac 0x19ccdb000 + 2431916 8 Foundation 0x199465470 __NSThread__start__ + 716 9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 5:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 6:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 7:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 8:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 9:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 10:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 11:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 12:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 13:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 14:: CVDisplayLink 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x19844a5e4 __psynch_cvwait + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198486664 _pthread_cond_wait + 1276 2 CoreVideo 0x1a03599bc CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 324 3 CoreVideo 0x1a0358a8c CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 504 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x19848606c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 15: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 16: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 17: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 18: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 19: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 20: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 21: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 22: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 23: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x198480e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 0 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit): x0: 0x0000000000000000 x1: 0x0700000102ca3d75 x2: 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  9. Double clicking on the primary or secondary colors crashes, exiting to desktop (like it does when clicking on the Daub "bristle" brush category, reported in other thread). It happens in the two places you could do that, as shown in the screenshots. I have just installed a 3060, with nvidia studio drivers, before installing Affinity suite v2. Other apps are not crashing while doing this, though (it appears it is when it calls the color dialog box). Tested disabling OpenCL, but it also crashes. Affinity Photo 2.0.0. Attaching screenshots to clarify.
  10. Hi developer team, please check the (unlisted) video, everything explained there. When I say backup copy, I mean recovery file. Both have been there and for that I didn't lose any work. I can not reproduce it this happens coincidentally. There is one pattern: only on first start of AP. After crash and 2nd start, the problem is gone until next reboot of Mac. Something completely different, I ask this each post here in the forum: When will get Effects/Gaussian Blur be enabled for masks? When will we get a Fill slider additionally to the Opacity slider. When will be an indicator added, showing the layer has Blend Options applied? Compliments: the Affinity implementation is far better to use as he flimsy Blend-if sliders of Photoshop. Version 1.10.5, additional purchased on Serif homepage instead of AppStore. Reason: Photoshop add-ons such as Topaz Denoise do not work with AppStore version of Affinity Photo. Once I got told here in the forum because AppStore apps have to run sandboxed. Cheers and Happy Halloween, Roland
  11. The new update brings really annoying bug – when I try to open a file modified in Windows Designer V2, saved on iCloud, I press Open -> Choose the file and Designer crashes.
  12. Are you using the latest release version? Yes. Can you reproduce it? Sadly, I can't reliably cause the issue. It's frustratingly frequent and intermittent. Does it happen for a new document? Yes. If you cannot provide a sample document then please give an accurate description of the problem for example it should include most of the following: What is your operating system and version: iPad Air 4th Gen running iOS 16.1.1 (20B101) using Apple Pencil 2 Is hardware acceleration (in Preferences > Performance) ON or OFF ? No such setting What happened for you (and what you expected to happen) I create intricate interwoven geometric patterns using the ShapeBuilder. Starting with the pencil tool, I draw lines which I then "expand stroke", make copies, rotate, and then use the ShapeBuilder to combine them. There are "left over" pieces after I use the Shape Builder, which I delete by hitting the trash bin icon in the Layer manager. Every so often, the app crashes when I delete one of these layers. Any unusual hardware: Nothing, other than Appel Pencil. Did this same thing used to work and if so have you changed anything recently? It works most of the time.
  13. I was trying Shape Builder and wanted to invoke the x-ray mode that I’ve seen on various tutorials. When I tap the Navigator icon and then tap on either Main View Mode or Split View Mode, Designer crashes instantly. I’ve tried with both the beta and mainstream app, getting the same result. I have also tried it with other files and it seems to work a little better. I have found that if I use the Designer module within Affinity Publisher for iPad, with the same file, there is absolutely no problem. I am attaching the file. You’ll see that it is not particularly large or complicated particular shapes. I was trying to combine using Shake Builder were the little houses (I was trying to replicate what the original artist had made, for practice). I realise there is probably something weird about the file, but this crash shouldn’t really happen, I think. cardch4.afdesign
  14. Publisher 2.0.0.1604 is crashing a lot. I understand how a crash works. What I wanna know is how I give you as much information as you need to understand where my crashes are coming from and how to stop them in Publisher 2.0.1 or 2.1. Dassit. I'm on Mac Ventura 13.1.0
  15. When i try to import from photo library my app crashes.
  16. Today I was doing a composition and had made a selection and clicked "Command > J" to duplicate and Photo 2 froze with the spinning beach ball and after about 30 seconds it stopped and made the duplicate and with any other move it would do the same thing until I saved, closed and restarted Photo 2 and it must hold memory because it still did it. Yesterday it did the same thing with a different composition but it did it when I used the rectangle tool and I had to "Force Close" Photo 2. I am using a 2020 MacBook Pro M1 and it's up to date and I have Automatic Brightness disable per James Ritson video. Please help its very annoying.
  17. Hi, this bug happens constantly with the following file and new blank documents. IMG_5523.afdesign 1) I open a JPG in Designer -> save as .afdesign 2) Use measurement tool and measure a distance A/B in pixels 3) Open "set scale" dialog -> enter "4.5m" and click "Anwenden" The dialog closes -> the widget now shows the computed distance in Meters -> Designer freezes The app does not recover. If i try to close the app via taskbar -> "Fenster schließen" i get the Save dialog but can't click any of the three buttons. The dialog is also freezed - can't click or move it. Have to force shutdown via the taskmanager: This error happens in 100% of all tests. Regardless of hardware acceleration on or off. EDIT I found this weird context 1) If i try this workflow with a fresh blank DIN A4 document (file -> new -> preset print, DIN A4 document unit Millimeter) there is no crash. Can use the tool after setting the scale to "4.5m" and continue work. Tool now shows distances in calculated scale and Meters. Document and Scale units are both metric blank-test-a4-print.afdesign 2) Now in the existing document I change the document unit settings from Millimeter to Pixel After that i do the above workflow again: measurement tool, measure A/B, set scale -> OK -> Designer freezes Have to force shutdown Designer via windows task manager. 3) The same crash appears even without changing the document units to pixel. It's enough to set the the scale units to Pixel when the document units differ (Millimeters): Conclusion: the whole scale units conversion (Pixel to Meters or vice versa) breaks the app.
  18. This just started today. Very weird. Haven't changed my system. When i select my text and go to the text font window to change the font. I used to be able to type the name and it would show the font. It immediately crashes designer when I do this. If i click in the area where the font name is and delete the name, on the last character it will crashed the program. I now have to select the drop down menu and click the font for it to work. Any suggestions why this might happen or a fix? Thanks Gary
  19. Steps 🪜: Insert some text. Try and search for a font. Crash. Expected Result 😀: Query the fonts on the system. Actual Result 😔: Crashes the application on keystroke while searching a font. System Specs 💻: Edition Windows 11 Education Version 22H2 Installed on ‎9/‎29/‎2022 OS build 22621.755 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22636.1000.0 Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz 2.30 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
  20. Open any image. Enable Bebas Neue in FontBase, open the text tool, start typing in the font field letter B (for bebas). Boom crashes both on Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer.
  21. Three crash reports attached. Affinity Photo 2-2022-11-12-184053.ips Affinity Photo 2-2022-11-12-220108.ips Affinity Photo 2-2022-11-13-105618.ips
  22. Hei, I've been using Affinity products for a while now and never had similar problem. Suddenly, most of Publisher documents crash after adding new pages. Even those documents I have worked in a while ago. It is impossible to work, and the documents consist only of several pages. I have Windows 11, and already tried the following solutions without results: Updated Affinity to the newest version (1.10.5.1342) Checked Windows for any driver updates Tried adding page without attaching it to master page Uninstalled and installed Affinity Attached you can find some of the crash reports and the document I worked in when it happened first time. Hope you can help me. Let me know if you need any more information. Thanks in advance, Egle 31f4611c-4cff-4773-81d6-fea308779469.dmp fd8f9ad5-3cd3-4aac-8314-bb7e400fd29d.dmp 1eb228cb-1f71-47f3-8eb6-87e57486404d.dmp Slides_Amnesty.afpub
  23. I am trying to run the Affinity suite on Windows 11 ARM64 (4GB RAM), installed from the Microsoft Store. I expected that the apps would be slow but usable under x64 emulation, but all three (Photo, Designer, Publisher) crash after displaying the splash screen (and a warning about lacking a DirectX 10 graphics card and falling back to software rendering). The Windows Event Log shows the following backtrace: Application: Photo.exe Framework Version: v4.0.30319 Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception. Exception Info: System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException at <Module>.Raster.Hardware<Raster::DefaultImplementation>.GetHardwarePossible() at Serif.Interop.Persona.Settings.PerformanceSettings.get_CanUseHardwareAcceleration() at Serif.Interop.Persona.Settings.PerformanceSettings.get_UseHardwareAcceleration() at Serif.Interop.Persona.Services.InteropService.Initialise() at Serif.Interop.Persona.Application.OnServicesInitialised(Serif.Interop.Persona.Services.IServiceProvider) at Serif.Affinity.Application.OnServicesInitialised(Serif.Interop.Persona.Services.IServiceProvider) at Serif.Interop.Persona.Application.OnStartup(System.Windows.StartupEventArgs) at System.Windows.Application.<.ctor>b__1_0(System.Object) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate) at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl() at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.CallbackWrapper(System.Object) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object) at MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext.Run(MS.Internal.CulturePreservingExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object) at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke() at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue() at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef) at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr) at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame) at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(System.Object) at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window) at Photo.Application.Main(System.String[]) I have the saved event log if that is of interest to the developers (please contact me privately).
  24. iPad designer V2 is crashing regularly. I have a feeling it’s the auto save feature. I decreased to 30 and it crashed quickly. Expanded it to the highest level and it’s not crashing. iPad Pro 12.9 , 2019 I think. Last model before M series processors. let me know if I can help investigate further. edit: not auto save as it crashed again
  25. Yesterday, I started doing production work in Affinity and I have already lost nearly all my work due to the software hard-crashing every hour or so (with hardware acceleration disabled). The recovery files seem to have been saved over an hour ago and are completely worthless whenever I need them. Please let me change the autosave settings to be at a five minute interval and let me decide the number of copies to save for the file so they cannot end up being corrupted or overwritten.
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