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Postings moved from another thread that related to crashes using NIK. These freezes on quit or closing a document are not related to using NIK. _______________________________ 1st Post: This is REALLY very frustrating! I can rarely, if ever, close any number of documents, much less quit APub 2.1 final without getting a freeze. Makes working in 2.1 a HUGE PITA. Can't seem to find the common element that causes certain documents to cause the freeze when closing them, nor why the app freezes on quit. But is is MISERABLE to use right now! 2nd Post: Just tried the new 188.8.131.527 with some of my problematic files and it seems in initial testing to resolve the problem. [only worked correctly on the first quit/close.] Interestingly, while back in the 2.1 beta testing, the crashes/freezes I was getting on close/quit were from trying NIK. However, after release of 2.1, I was finding that several other files were causing the freezes on close/quit, none of which had used NIK nor had NIK been opened during the sessions. 3rd Post: Spoke too soon. Left APub in the background with the suspect files open. Did other work, upgraded the other betas. Came back and tried to quit APub and once again it froze. No crash report. It closes all the docs visually, but then simply shows the spinning beachball and requires a forced quit. Happy to package and upload the docs involved with a provided dropbox link. UPDATE: Reopened with all the docs. Tried to close one of them that may be a problem and it froze just by closing that one doc. 4th Post: Interesting! I re-opened with just a small test doc open plus a suspect one. Made a package of that doc for upload. Then I did a Save As of that doc. I then was able to close it without a freeze. I then re-opened APub 2.1.1, opened two of the other suspect docs, plus still had the small test doc open plus the new version (the Saved As) of the highly suspect doc. Could switch back and forth between the docs, but when I tired to close that doc, freeze again. Apparent that 2.1.1 has not resolved the freeze on close/quit problem for me. None of the freezes generate a crash report.