William Overington
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9 minutes ago, sfriedberg said:
@William Overington, my problem is not that I cannot find the proper glyphs. I chose some glyphs (actually, Unicode code points), then inadvertently applied a style to them which specifies a font in which those glyphs (again, actually Unicode code points) are unsupported. I now face the problem of locating all those characters so I can reapply the correct style to them.
Does that clarify the situation for you?
> I chose some glyphs (actually, Unicode code points),
Yes. How did you choose them please? For example using the glyph browser or what?
I am wondering how you got them in the first place/.
> then inadvertently applied a style to them which specifies a font in which those glyphs (again, actually Unicode code points) are unsupported.
Yes. Did you just get lots of black rectangles (that is the default glyph, .notdef, for the font, which the font sends if the font does not have a glyph for the character code that you specify?
> I now face the problem of locating all those characters so I can reapply the correct style to them.
I do not understand that part.
When you chose some glyphs at the start, were they displayed? If so, Do you know in which font they were displayed?
I am thinking that if you apply a different font to all those black rectangles that the underlying code points might still be there and, given a different font, might then diplay correctly.
Or have I misundersttod?
> Does that clarify the situation for you?
Well, a bit but not entirely. I do not know whether you are a beginner with font technology and missing something basic or whether you are very experienced with font technology and this is a problem which I do not understand. Can you clarify please?
William
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40 minutes ago, Alfred said:
I think you may have misread the original post, William. This topic isn’t about finding character codes to use in a document, it’s about identifying exactly which particular characters are being flagged by Affinity Publisher as unsupported characters.
Actually, I consider that I di not misread the original post, though maybe I did.
I wondered if @sfriedberg woud like some help solving the underlying problem of finding out which characters would be needed. So I went from there.
So, yes, you are correct that my post does not respond to the following statement.
> So Publisher really needs a way to locate occurrences of "Unsupported character use".
Yet does one just think, 'Fine, that is your opinion, I don't work for Serif, so I note what is stated, but I can do nothing about it.' and do nothing or does one think 'Fine, that is your opinion, I don't work for Serif, so I note what is stated, but I can do nothing about it. However, I can use my skills as an adviser to try to understand the underlying problem and try as best I can to help if I happen in the particular situation to be able to respond in some way in the hope that what I can say might be helpful'.
I tend to go to for the second option. Some people (and I specifically do not mean you Alfred) take the former view.
Certainly, sometimes my effort to help is unwelcome and I can get a sort of telling off, as happened in a thread in the other place yesterday in the thread referenced earlier in this thread, though not from the person whom I tried to help, but alas that is sometimes the price of trying to be helpful.
William
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5 hours ago, sfriedberg said:
I've got a document with a bunch of Greek and mathematical symbols in it, so it was not entirely surprising that the Font Manager reports "Unsupported character use" for my body text font. Unfortunately, there's no way to find (and thus fix) those uses. "Locate" in the Font manager is not very helpful when 99.5% of the document is set in the affected font. I can't use Text > Find because Font Manager doesn't tell me which characters are involved.
So Publisher really needs a way to locate occurrences of "Unsupported character use".
I don't know if this helps support the underlying problem, but here are two suggestions just in case.
There are code charts at the following place.
https://www.unicode.org/charts/
The website is as follows.
http://www.unicode.org/main.html
I addition, the following forum thread may be helpful.
If you can send a print screen image showing the characters that you need please, maybe some of us will be able to try to find the answer for you.
William
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2 hours ago, William Overington said:
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I then adjusted the vertical position of the image. I know that it is often better to have more space below the image than above, but I was mindful of the fact that I might want to frame the image in a frame that is sold as for a 7 inch by 5 inch photograph with a mount included, so i made the image more central to allow for the width of the mount.
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Here is a link to the type of frame that I am hoping to use for this card of a graphic of a hedgehog.
It is the same type of frame that I used for the card that displays the glyphs of the Gallery font. That framed print is now displayed on a wall in my home.
The frame can be used either portrait format as shown in the image on the Tesco website or landscape mode, there are support fittings for both, and also a fitting so that the frame can be displayed freestanding in either portrait format or landscape format. There is also a fifth possible use, not mentioned by Tesco, namely to store something, like say an invitation to a wedding, something that one wishes to conserve long term without displaying it continuously.
There is a clear transparent layer in front of the mount and the image when it has been framed..
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/303403803
Tesco had removed these frames from its product range some time ago, but recently brought them back.
I ordered some for delivery with the grocery delivery recently but they were not available locally on the day, so I have ordered some this week. Two A4 frames did arrive though, not as substitutes, I had ordered them separately. I have been using that type of A4 frames for some of the cards that I have produced. It can use that type of frame permanently, but if I can get some more of the 10 inch by 8 inch oak effect frames I may possibly reframed them in those frames.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/251929289
I am hoping that they bring back the similar 10 inch by 8 inch frames soon, I had four of those before but I have used them now. They are good for farming an A5 card. The result looks very good and indeed looks very expensive.
One point though, these oak effect frames have a very good result but the fitting is awkward. Fortunately I had some pointed nose pliers handy - they were in another Tesco product hat I bought some time ago, just in case I needed it.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/293099221
William
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On 4/23/2021 at 12:10 PM, William Overington said:
In view of the availability to me of the Papier facility to produce high quality prints, I am looking through various illustrations that I have produced over the years with the idea of producing such a hardcopy print of some of them.
For example, those on this web page, and linked from it.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/library.htm
In particular I am looking at this image.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/hedgehog.png
I am thinking of blanking the lettering from the top and enlarging the remaining image, perhaps by a factor of 200% horizontally and 200% vertically to produce a landscape card.
A sort of incunabula-style woodcut-style hedgehog.
I remember that DrawPlus 7 had some rather nice woodcuts in it. Alas, as far as I know they have never been incuded in later editions, though I have not used every subsequent version, so I am not absolutely sure of that.
William
I have now produced the 300 dots per inch jpg file of the hedgehog graphic.
Here is the original, a png file, recovered from the web. I went onto the web as webspace owner and found the file dated as 4 August 2015.
Here is the png.
Here is the jpg.
I started with a copy of artwork of the fourth card (the software unicorns) and then deleted the original image and placed the png file.
The image was 794 pixels by 794 pixels.
I changed the size to 1588 pixels by 1588 pixels.
I then drew a rectangle over the lettering, made the fill colour and the line colour both white and then as best I could determine that the fill of the rectangle and the colour of the background were the same, though I am not absolutely sure of that, though they seem to be.
I then grouped the two items together and horizontally centred the resulting image. I made sure that the rectangle overlaying the text was not outside the horizontal limits of the image of the hedgehog because that would have affected the horizontal centreing of the grouped image.
I then adjusted the vertical position of the image. I know that it is often better to have more space below the image than above, but I was mindful of the fact that I might want to frame the image in a frame that is sold as for a 7 inch by 5 inch photograph with a mount included, so i made the image more central to allow for the width of the mount.
I uploaded the image to the Papier website and set up a card, including adding some text in what is notionally the greetings section of the card, though I included the title, the provenance information of 4 August 2015, my name, and April 2021.
I then placed an order for the card, £4.35, being £3.50 for the card and 85p for postage.
William
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1 minute ago, Alfred said:
Incidentally, are you absolutely sure that vegan soup came later than soup? I can well imagine that the first soup was a meat, fish or poultry broth, but I don’t know if there’s any evidence for this.
No I am not. I have no evidence. I am not congruently sure that the word vegan was not coined before 1944 (1944 being when The Vegan Society was founded) but that is the word vegan, I suppose some foods, and indeed beliefs, from earlier times could now be regarded as having been vegan even if the word vegan as such did not exist at the time.
I suppose that it gets into the question of what is soup.
I remember once reading something about it being originally of serving as a course in an inn of the water in which vegetables had been cooked rather than pouring it away, though whether that was a true observation or some comment about the soup served in some particular inn I do not know!
William
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1 hour ago, William Overington said:
That gives me an idea for some artwork of a pop art nature!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans
An image of a can of gluten-free, vegan soup with no lumps in it.
It will need to be a fantasy image because I have searched and cannot find any at all!
William
Thinking about how to approach that, I am wondering if an equation could be developed and then put in the suggestions forum for extra facilites for Affinity Designer for the following.
Given a rectangular vector image, which may include text from a TrueType or OpenType font, what mathematical equation describes what must be applied to the x coordinate of each node point in the image such that the resulting image is a view of the original image as if it has been wrapped around half of a can of food. The diameter of the can being calculated from half the width of the label divided by pi. Thus the width of the resulting image being less than before the transform was applied.
So if implemented one could just select an image and then apply the transform by just clicking one tool button. That could be good.
William
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40 minutes ago, Alfred said:
I agree that Extended ASCII is a superset rather than a subset of ASCII, since it came later than the basic set. However, the characters in Extended ASCII are (by definition) ASCII as thereby extended.
Well, vegan soup came later than soup, but that does not make vegan soup a superset of soup.
For example ASCII lowercase letters are a subset of ASCII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_diagram
William
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15 minutes ago, Alfred said:
Is vegan soup actually soup?
That gives me an idea for some artwork of a pop art nature!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans
An image of a can of gluten-free, vegan soup with no lumps in it.
It will need to be a fantasy image because I have searched and cannot find any at all!
William
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7 minutes ago, Alfred said:
Is vegan soup actually soup?
Yes, because vegan soup is a subset of soup.
Yet extended ascii is not a subset of ascii.
William
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16 minutes ago, Alfred said:
Ñ is Extended ASCII, so it doesn’t really fall outside the bounds of “ASCII only”. I think the transformation of Ñ to N needs to be called something like “de-diacritication”.
Well, is extended ascii actually ascii?
William
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As there have been posts about languages in this thread, some readers might enjoy the following link.
https://community.serif.com/discussion/116116/celebrating-the-letter-n
Actually, the thread has the title
Celebrating the letter Ñ
but the asciionlyization of the letter Ñ loses the meaning of the title in the web address!
And yes, asciionlyization does get a wavy red line under it when editing the post - but well, languages evolve! 😀
William
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By the way, I have been using the word incunabula, so here is a link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incunable
Some readers may also like the following.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colophon_(publishing)
Maybe that link might be a catalyst to people producing books, both as hardcopy books and as electronic books, using Affinity products to include a traditional colophon in their publications.
I included a colophon in my first novel, after the text of the novel.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/localizable_sentences_the_novel_colophon.pdf
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/novel.htm
William
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If I remember correctly there was an incunabula style woodcut of a space capsule!
William
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Recently I learned of the following web page.
https://papier.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/articles/212102305-What-languages-can-I-print-on-my-order-
Here are links to some of my own PDF documents from some years ago.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/typecase_welsh_accented_characters.pdf
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/typecase_esperanto.pdf
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/typecase_accented_characters_for_Latvian.pdf
Some of the fonts that the Papier system allows for use in greetings cards appear to support accents well. For example, Garamond.
I am reminded of my ideas for The Café Äpfel.
https://community.serif.com/discussion/78555/the-cafe-apfel
I suppose I could build that into one of my novels.
Some years ago I learned of the following website that some readers may find interesting.
William
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In view of the availability to me of the Papier facility to produce high quality prints, I am looking through various illustrations that I have produced over the years with the idea of producing such a hardcopy print of some of them.
For example, those on this web page, and linked from it.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/library.htm
In particular I am looking at this image.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/hedgehog.png
I am thinking of blanking the lettering from the top and enlarging the remaining image, perhaps by a factor of 200% horizontally and 200% vertically to produce a landscape card.
A sort of incunabula-style woodcut-style hedgehog.
I remember that DrawPlus 7 had some rather nice woodcuts in it. Alas, as far as I know they have never been incuded in later editions, though I have not used every subsequent version, so I am not absolutely sure of that.
William
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This morning, 21 April 2021, I opened the package that contained the printed card of Software Unicorns reflected in a Lake, the artwork that I sent to Papier being in my post of 12 April 2021. I have framed the print.
The print is, as expected, mainly slightly darker all over, as expected. However, the blue at the edges of the lake is more so, and the brown trunk and branches in the foreground is significantly a much richer brown.
Close up, the jaggedness of the image is not too noticeable except at the blue edge at around 6 o'clock on the picture.
However, when viewed from a distance of about 2 to 3 feet, the sort of distance from which it might be from a viewer when displayed on a wall, that jaggedness is not noticeable, at least to me.
At a distance the printed image does seem to have the lake more obviously horizontal, maybe the darker brown of the tree in the foreground causing that effect.
Something that I did notice on the print that I had not noticed on the artwork is that in relation to the software unicorn whose tail is hidden behind a tree, the end of the tail is just visible below the foliage of the tree.
William
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Could you write something about the image please?
Is it a processed photograph or have you drawn it?
The white tree trunks look like they might be birch trees.
William
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Why do you make your artwork the size that you make it please?
Looking through the Share Your Work forum, artwork is in many different sizes, so I am wondering why people choose the size that each of them uses.
For example, I often use 2171 pixels by 1571 pixels because I am producing artwork with the intention of producing hardcopy prints by using what are termed Photo greetings Cards at the Papier facility.
https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/138654-artwork-for-greetings-cards/
William
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Unicode Inc. announces design competition
http://www.unicode.org/announcements/u14call/index.html
William
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Ah. I thought that it was someone like Clint Eastwood in a movie or something!
I have been trying to place it!
I know who said "Well!" 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b51SKLTZNY
William
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13 hours ago, Alfred said:
It’s back to full width for me, too.
Yay, as somebody famous once said! 🤗
Hello Alfred
I have been trying to remember who that was. Can you say please?
William
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I was looking at some YouTube videos recently and I saw this one offered, and I watched it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiDj731yXgw
I have been wondering how to do a vase with shade and light using an Affinity Designer watercolour brush.
I am thinking of drawing the vase using the pen tool, and flood filling it with a light grey colour.
Then adding a new layer and, using a watercolour brush, drawing a grey vertical on the left side of the vase and a white vertical on the right side of the vase.
Then adding a new layer and, using a watercolour brush, paint the whole vase in a pale blue colour.
Is that the way to produce an image of a vase with shade and light please?
William
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6 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:
it's just under the first post on each page, not at the side (and now does not include "popular days in this thread" or "images posted")
It does not seem to be appearing here.
William
Need a way to locate "Unsupported character use"
in Feedback for Affinity Publisher V1 on Desktop
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When I make fonts I tend to make the .notdef character a very black, solid, custom shape that I designed years ago. It is bold and obvious. Unfortuantely the tiny thin black rectangle conventionally used in many fonts (often known as a 'tofu box') is very easily missed when glancing through pages of text. My solid .notdef glyph really stands out!
For example,
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/QUESTTXT.TTF
William