William Overington

I have been trying producing some artwork using the fonts. Page 7 of https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/138654-artwork-for-greetings-cards/ Near the end of the page. William

Well, I wondered how it would look. Please note the italic ligature of long s and h. William

Not too early, nor too late. Yet I am using the style with present day language, though a little stylisedly quaint in the wording. For example, the year in Roman numerals, but the present date. Also, the style is French.

I need to increase the leading for the italic. William

A first attempt at producing a title page in sixteenth-century style using the EB Garamond font and its italic. William

The italic font has more ligatures than does the regular font. Here are some of them in an illustration, together with those that are in the regular typeface as before, but please note how the ligature 'st' is overridden by the ligature 'is'. The list is in the OpenType code for Discretionary Ligatures that is in the font.. lookup Ligature8 { # Referenced by feature "DiscretionaryLigatures1" sub Q y -> Q_y; sub T h -> T_h; sub a s -> a_s; sub c h -> c_h; sub c k -> c_k; sub c t -> c_t; sub e s -> e_s; sub eacute s -> eacute_s; sub f f b -> f_f_b; sub f f h -> f_f_h; sub f f j -> f_f_j; sub f f k -> f_f_k; sub f f t -> f_f_t; sub f b -> f_b; sub f h -> f_h; sub f j -> f_j; sub f k -> f_k; sub f t -> f_t; sub g g -> g_g; sub g j -> g_j; sub g y -> g_y; sub i s -> i_s; sub s k -> s_k; sub s p -> s_p; sub s s -> s_s; sub s t -> s_t; sub longs longs b -> longs_longs_b; sub longs longs h -> longs_longs_h; sub longs longs i -> longs_longs_i; sub longs longs j -> longs_longs_j; sub longs longs k -> longs_longs_k; sub longs longs l -> longs_longs_l; sub longs longs t -> longs_longs_t; sub longs b -> longs_b; sub longs h -> longs_h; sub longs i -> longs_i; sub longs j -> longs_j; sub longs k -> longs_k; sub longs l -> longs_l; sub longs longs -> longs_longs; sub longs s -> longs_s; sub longs t -> longs_t; sub t t -> t_t; sub u s -> u_s; } William

Thank you. Yet ... William

Well, if you, and maybe some other readers too, would like to try getting a long s from the Glyph Browser while using the Garamond GB font please then whether it is user error or a bug might become clearer. By the way, the font has a two leaf ornaments, one at U+E001 and one at U+E002 They are both in the Private Use Area, which, as some readers may know, can be used by anyone for their own glyphs, though not uniquely, but the facility can be very useful in some circumstances. They can be found in the Glyph Browser, most easily by selecting a display of only those glyphs that are in the Private Use Area, William

I had first used File Properties Fonts in Adobe Reader. I noted that there were lots of fonts used in the document, so I tried the WordPad method. William

The long s is the final character in Latin Extended-A. https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0100.pdf That code chart is linked from the following page. https://www.unicode.org/charts/ I got the character the long s character that I pasted by copying from the FontCreator preview panel while the EB Garamond font file was open in FontCreator. William

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/142990-eb-garamond-a-font-with-lots-of-ligatures/ William

Affinity Publisher will also, when ligatures are set as Use All, use the historical long s ligatures. However, as far as I can tell, Affinity Publisher does not allow a long s to be entered from the Glyph Browser. So, here is one, if you would like to copy it and paste it into an Affinity Publisher text frame. ſ The list of what is available is in the code section in the previous post in this thread. William

EB Garamond - a font with lots of ligatures https://fonts.google.com/specimen/EB+Garamond I a using the fonts in the folder named 'static'. In Affinity Publisher one needs to use Text Ligatures Use All ---- I found that this font has the ligatures by a rather serendipitous route. In https://www.unicode.org/L2/L-curdoc.htm there appeared the following document. https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2021/21101-manyoushuu.pdf I downloaded a copy and opened it in Adobe Reader. Upon reading the descriptive text, which is in English, I quickly noticed the use of a ct ligature in the word 'character'. So I did a copy and paste to WordPad, and found the font to be EB Garamond. I did not know of the font, so I searched for it and found the link. I looked at the font using the High-Logic FontCreator program and here is a copy of the OpenType code for discretionary ligatures. lookup Ligature5 { # Referenced by feature "DiscretionaryLigatures1" sub Q y -> Q_y; sub T h -> T_h; sub c h -> c_h; sub c k -> c_k; sub c t -> c_t; sub f f b -> f_f_b; sub f f h -> f_f_h; sub f f i -> _1034; sub f f j -> f_f_j; sub f f k -> f_f_k; sub f f l -> _1035; sub f f t -> f_f_t; sub f b -> f_b; sub f f -> _1031; sub f h -> f_h; sub f j -> f_j; sub f k -> f_k; sub f t -> f_t; sub q uniA76B -> q_uniA76B; sub s t -> s_t; sub longs longs b -> longs_longs_b; sub longs longs h -> longs_longs_h; sub longs longs i -> longs_longs_i; sub longs longs j -> longs_longs_j; sub longs longs k -> longs_longs_k; sub longs longs l -> longs_longs_l; sub longs longs t -> longs_longs_t; sub longs b -> longs_b; sub longs h -> longs_h; sub longs i -> longs_i; sub longs j -> longs_j; sub longs k -> longs_k; sub longs l -> longs_l; sub longs longs -> longs_longs; sub longs s -> longs_s; sub longs t -> longs_t; sub t t -> t_t; } Also, the font has the characters needed for Esperanto. William

I made a copy of the incorrect original then went back to the incorrect original and tried to do an edit undo so as to try to go back to try to find where the error got introduced. But it appears that as I had saved the file that the undo record had been wiped. So somehow, possibly by me inadvertently doing something I had at some stage flipped the text frame horizontally. William

William

Yes. I have now made a copy of the .afdesign file and done a horizontal mirroring of the text frame and moved the glyphs around so as to get the correct poem, of which I hope to post an image soon. William

I wrote and posted that poem on Saturday. It is now mid-afternoon on Monday. I have just noticed that the glyphs for the colours (and possibly the seasons, but they are symmetrical designs, so it is not clear) are horizontal images of what they should be, and thus are the wrong glyph in each place as a result. The order from top downwards should be copper, gold, bronze, silver. The order actually is horizontally mirrored bronze, horizontally mirrored silver, horizontally mirrored copper, horizontally mirrored gold. The .afdesign file is similarly wrong. However, the glyphs are correct in the font. So how has that happened? The image in the final post on page 6 shows the glyphs correctly. I produced the source file for the poem by starting with a copy of the .afdesign file for that image and adding the glyphs for the seasons and moving glyphs around. William

The following thread might be of interest. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/128285-colour-fonts-and-affinity-products/ From the third post on there is a workaround such that, to some extent, one can use at least some colour fonts in at least one Affinity product. William

Supplementary note two days later. The glyphs of at least the colours are horizontally mirrored, and thus incorrect. How did that happen? Discussion in subsequent posts. William

That is interesting and helpful information. I suppose that what I am looking for is a business that will provide a similar service to Papier yet also has a facility for using metallic ink. As a separate question, if someone wants to produce artwork using Affinity Designer and the artwork contains Pantone metallic spot colors, what options does Affinity Designer provide for export of a file that will conserve the Pantone metallic information, such that even if a one off print cannot be economically printed at present, the artwork is conserved with the Pantone metallic information. I am wondering if ink cartridges used for twelve ink print processes have any metallic ink cartridges such that one of the other colours, such as light light black, could be replaced by a metallic ink cartridge while a print is made. William

Well, it does not seem to be signatures (plural) in each image but one signature comprised of two given names and a surname. Those two given names and a surname are stated within the text in the first post of this thread. William

Affinity Designer includes support for Pantone metallics in its swatch collection. Separately, not using metallics, I have been producing artwork for greetings cards and sending files to a specialist business and receiving hardcopy prints in one-off quantities, by paying a relatively small fee. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/138654-artwork-for-greetings-cards/ If I want to get a hardcopy print of a design that uses metallic ink, does anyone know how that can be done, or is it enormous quantities only in practice? William

Have you got these published yet? You can, if you so choose, publish them yourself on the web in electronic format. I notice that the dates on the illustration are in the American mm/dd/yyyy format. In the United Kingdom, The British Library collects and conserves most things that are published in the United Kingdom, including pure electronic publications. I do not know what arrangements there are in other countries. So it is not necessary to convince a commercial organization to publish work. William

By the way, as a side issue, I saw somewhere sometime a request by some educators to toy manufacturers that if they were making sets of plastic digits to use the same colour throughout the set and not to make one digit red and another blue and another yellow as apparently it can result in children locking the colour to the digit in their memory and causing a muddle. William

Thank you for posting. I suppose it depends on where the implied brackets are in >> some language-independent glyphs for some sentences that involve metallic colours either some language-independent glyphs for some (sentences that involve metallic colours) or some (language-independent glyphs for some sentences) that involve metallic colours Actually, although the glyphs are shown here in black, the colour in which the glyph is displayed is intended irrelevant to the meaning. So if, say, they were all printed blue, that could probably not cause confusion and be taken as just part of a presentation. However, if a glyph with the meaning "The colour is blue." were printed in red and was near a glyph with the meaning "The colour is red." printed in blue, then that could be confusing. I don't remember the detail but I did somewhere sometime see something about a psychology experiment where there were cards with each card having one word such as "blue", "red", and other colours, and the words were printed in colour, sometimes the same colour as the meaning of the word and sometimes in a different colour. And then the experimenter presented the cards one at a time to a person and asked them to read the word out loud. I don't remember the result, nor indeed why it was done. William