William Overington

Is it possible to express smells in images? If so, how? If not, can we start devising a way? Please remember that in the days before colour printing, colours could be indicated in black and white drawings by using lines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatching_(heraldry) William

I like to produce, using Affinity Designer, images that I like to think are art. I export a jpg file from Affinity Designer, upload the jpg file to the website of a company that supplies customized greetings cards, set up a design for a greetings card, the image on the front; inside the greetings card, where the text of the greeting card would go, I put a title, a description, my name and the month and year; choose to send the card to myself,; pay a fee, and, as long as the image is within legal constraints but not needimg to pass any assessment of artistic merit, I receive a printed custom greetings card. I buy a frame, listed as a photo frame, the frame is delivered with my grocery order. I frame the greetings card. So I have a framed print of an image that I produced, using Affinity Designer, yet nobody other than me has assessed it for artistic merit. So is it art? There is a saying in computing - rubbish in, rubbish out. So what if someone, whilst tactfully not using the word 'rubbish' sees no artistic merit whatsoever in the image that I have produced. Does that mean that the image is not art? What if lots of people have the same view? What if nobody says that the image has any artistic merit? Is it still art? Does the fact that I like to think that it is art, make it art? William

@iconoclast Have you seen this site? http://museumofbadart.org/ Two things that occur to me. The art has survived. The names of the pictures might have been added by the gallery. For example, there is one named After the Apocalypse Would it be different if the title were Dawn redwoods in winter ? I like the picture entitled Two trees in love ---- Separately, there was the following. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/27/pair-of-glasses-left-on-us-gallery-floor-mistaken-for-art William

> vernissage I needed to look that one up! https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vernissage William

Well, @thomaso asked a sensible question, there are two Frankfurts in Germany. There are a a lot of places in the United Kingdom called Newport. William

Actually, now I have found it available, I would use an online printing facility. https://viking-virtualprinthouse.co.uk/ Not a publisher that I would need to convince, as long as it is legal they will print it for a fee. I have not placed an order yet. They have a £5 minimum order charge, but that is on the whole order, the order can be made up of various items. However, I am gradually adding PDFs of designs that I have produced, mostly using Affinity Designer, a few copies of each on 350 grammes per square metre card, to a basket, with a view to checking out once it gets over the £5 basic charge. The £5 does not include delivery. William

In fairness I should mention that I did not use a copy/story editor and explain why. I know that the proper way to wrote a novel is about finishing it first and so on. However, my novel was not written to be a purely literary work novel. I had thought of an invention and had been tryimg to get it implemented, with no success. I had done what I could from my situation, retired, not running a business. So I devised a fictional research centre and just started to write a novel about it and the imaginary people who worked there and so on. Fictiomal stories, yet when they discuss scientific and technological matters, it is all my research content. I have found it a very interesting technique, as characters can hold conversations and discussions. Gradually various other locations in the fictional area got added. Yet some action happens in real places. As the goal was not the production of a purely literary work novel I have enjoyed looking into background information of incidental things in the novel. For example, in one place there is a train journey and I used YouTube videos of some railway stations and some train journeys and Google street view to gather background information and then I included various things I had learned from those sources in the novels. I wanted to get stuff published, published promptly, not wait until I had completed it, if indeed I wuld have completed it doing that way. So I published cjapters as I completed them, not all in numerical order. So really the novel can be assessed in two more-or-less independent ways. Is it a good novel as if it were a purely literary work novel? Does it convey in a readable form my ideas about my invention? The answers to those questions might not be the same. There is a version in which the chapters of the novel are the same yet there are also author notes, written as I proceeded. I have looked back through the author notes and it is interesting to remember how things were when I wrote the author notes. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/novel_plus.htm I missed wrting it, so I started a sequel, it is about twp-thirds complete at present, but I have not published anything recently, and not wriiten much. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/locse_novel2.htm William

If you have found that from another source, fine. However, as best I remember I have never seen an A4 size paperback book, though I have not been in a bookshop for many years. A4 is a very popular size in the United Kingdom for such things as business letters, certificates for qualifications, and some other things. A lot (most? almost all?) home printers tend to be A4. Some manuals for equipment arrive in A4 size, but they do not tend to have many pages. A4 folded in half gives A5, and A5 is a popular size for booklets. My novel is in A4 because at the time, although not having a printer, I felt that if I wanted to get a hardcopy of what I produced then A4 would be the best size to use, thinking that I would get a home printer. Is it your own novel? I published my (first) novel on the web, each chapter when it was completed. Here is a link to the novel, http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/novel.htm and here is a direct link to the colophon. A colophon does not need to include the font alphabets, that is optional. I chose to include it. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/localizable_sentences_the_novel_colophon.pdf Are you going to include a half-title page and a colophon? Are you doing something to look like a commerical book, or do you want the private press look? William

I usually use 14 point. But my novel is on A4 size pages. So the pages are each around twice the area of the pages that you are using. I notice your choice of font. I would be interested to know why you have chosen that font please. Please know that I am simply asking, not criticising at all, I am just interested as to why peope choose particular fonts. William

@John Calendo Can you clarify what your document is like please? For example, are you starting with a blank A4 size page and using a text frame? Are you printing direct from the on-screen document? Have you tried exporting as a PDF (Portable Document Format) document and then tried printing the PDF document, rather than printing the on-screen document? I don't know if that will work, but is worth a try. William

I don't know. If not, then maybe my post was not relevant. But what if someone has two computers, one Windows 10, the other Windows 10 S ? That may be me grasping at straws to try to justify my post, but I think it would be best to explain the situation. William

Careful though. I have not read all the thread. Just wondering if a Windows 10 S system is in use! William

No, because I could not find it. However, I had only had a quick look and I was busy making the letter versions of the pictures, and since then I have not been using the computer until now. William

However, I did use the Anchor facility for the Letter size version of Cranes before a gibbous moon, as it is portrait format and Letter is not as tall as A4 in portrait format and using Rescale reduces the size of the text. William Cranes_before_a_gibbous_moon_Letter.pdf

I did not use a Resize command. I did not know that there is one. I went to Document Setup... and changed from A4 to Letter Everything scaled automatically. I did not us the Anchor option to keep the text size unaltered, adjusting it manually afterwards, because I wante the text box to be scaled and located appropriately for the Letter size document. William Lady_M_greets_the_horse_Letter.pdf

Please know that the download figures for the PDF documents each include one from me, as I always check the upload. Also, the download figure includes not only downloads but also online views. So unless anyone says I will not know if anyone has downloaded any of the files and produced a print. I don't need to know, but if anyone does send me a private message about having done so I will treat that information as private and confidential. In England one can readily buy frames, frames without a mount, for A4 as it is a size widely used for examination certificates. Can someone in the USA readily buy a frame for Letter size please? I have found that frame sizes in England are typically for the sizes of photographs in the old Imperial units, and A4.. Thus 6 inches by 4 inches, 7 inches by 5 inches, 10 inches by 8 inches, and A4. I can get various frames i those sizes delivered with my grocery. Ready-made larger fames may be readily available from specialist shops. I have yet to find an A5 frame advertised anywhere, even though a lot of high quality greetings cards are A5 size. A5 is an interesting size for a greetings card as it seems that the size limit for a letter sent by Royal Mail, that is the maximum size and thickness such that a letter is not classed as a Large Letter that needs higher postage, may have been set to the size that it has been set so that an A5 greetings card in its enveople is not regarded as a Large Letter. .William

I have now produced a Letter size PDF document. I started with a copy of the A4 afdesign file and then changed the size to Letter. This rescaled the font from 450 point to 462.6 point. I changed it to 450 point so that the image produced would be the same size as for the A4 version. William Lady_reading_haiku_to_an_elephant_Letter.pdf

Here is an A4 size PDF version of the Cranes before a gibbous moon picture. This picture is portrait format. The file has no bleed area. The file is intended for printing using a printer attached to a home computer. The print can be framed in an A4 certificate frame if readers so choose. William Cranes_before_a_gibbous_moon_A4.pdf

If a print were required from a printer such as Viking virtual print house there will need to be a bleed area at print time. Now, they could add one automatically, but would that involve scaling my PDF or placing it onto a white background? So if I were trying to get a print from them I would upload a version with a bleed area, for completeness I was not sure which type of PDF to export, so I used digital high quality. If, hypothetically, this picture were to be printed as top quality art printing, I do not know which type of PDF to use. So I added the note so as to indicate the possible limitations of the output. I have produced these PDFs in case, in hope I suppose, that some readers who have a printer may want to produce a print and display it, possibly, but not necessarily, in a frame. If there is interest I would try to produce versions for paper size(s) used by American size paper, but I have not done so at this time as I am unsure of which size or sizes to use. I am aware that Affinity Designer has some of them available as preset sizes. William

Here is an A4 size PDF version of the Lady M greets the horse L picture. This picture is landscape format. The file has no bleed area. The file is intended for printing using a printer attached to a home computer. The print can be framed in an A4 certificate frame if readers so choose. William Lady_M_greets_the_horse_L_A4.pdf

Here is an A4 size PDF version of the Lady reading haiku to an elephant picture. This picture is landscape format. The file has no bleed area. The file is intended for printing using a printer attached to a home computer. The print can be framed in an A4 certificate frame if readers so choose. William Lady_reading_haiku_to_an_elephant_A4.pdf

The situation has now changed! William

That is an interesting idea. At the moment of writing this post, the first post in this thread has three posted reactions, one 'Like', from @Richard Fillebrownand two 'Confused', one from @AdamStanislavand one from @jmwellborn . Also @Richard Fillebrownhas given a 'Like' to the second image that is in the thread. Thus far the thread has had 180 views. I don't know how that works. Is it the number of people who have viewed the thread or is it that if someone looks at the thread several times, does each look count separately, or only count separately if there is another post between two views, or something else? William

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Alas, yes. I transcribed what I wrote in 2002. William