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Snapseed reacted to maor26 in Affinity products for Linux
Looks like this thread went somewhere else entirely.
If you aren't interested in using linux/affinity software on linux, just ignore this thread and stop looking for people to argue with.
As for affinity products on linux, A LOT of users(including me) would love to see them on linux and PAY for them just like every other
commercial platform doesn't matter the OS being used.
There are more than enough web developers, graphic designers and regular users that are using linux and need a better solution
that the currently available design software.
If someone from the affinity team is here, I would suggest making a survey to see some real numbers and post about it on twitter where a lot
of potential users are.
After that, maybe they can consider doing a linux version.
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Snapseed reacted to OS1 in Affinity products for Linux
I've been using Linux since RedHat 5.2 and ejected WinDOS for home use when they went anal about licensing with XP. My work laptop has been purely Linux for the past 12 years, and on and off for 5 years before that. We currently have one laptop where Linux doesn't support the webcam and another where Win 10 no longer supports the webcam. However, we have many more laptops that won't get a look in for Win 11, but they'll happily run Ubuntu 21.10. I've had to rescue many more WinDOS installs using Linux than the other way around. It's very jarring when I have an IT support task on a WinDOS machine, the clunky UI, the constant disk thrashing and the unfathomable settings! I installed a Linux WinDOS look a like on an old i3 laptop for video conferencing and just left it in the conference room, no one even realised it wasn't WinDOS! I thought there'd be howls of indignation, but there was nothing. That's the laptop where Win 10 no longer supports the webcam and one of the ones which won't get Win 11, but it'll happily run the latest Ubuntu complete with webcam. Fans of any OS will happily throw mud at other OSes, without bothering to get to grips with the other OSes. There are plenty of foibles in Linux, and which ever desktop you run on it, there are plenty in macOS, but there are also plenty in WinDOS.
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Snapseed reacted to Komatös in Affinity products for Linux
OffTopic
If you're tech-savvy, you can set up a small home server with its own cloud using a Raspberry Pi.
If you don't want to tinker yourself, devices from Synology, QNAP or ASUSTor are recommended.
The advantage is that you can access your data without being connected to the internet.
But you also have to realise that a "home server" is not cheap,
However, the devices are so versatile.
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Snapseed reacted to GuernseyMan in Affinity products for Linux
Been a user of Serif products for as long as I can remember and very rarely commented (in fact I had to make a new account just to post on these new forums! (and misspelt my name)
I've been watching this topic since the start and have a couple of things to say:
I'm in the same position as a few people on here. It would be nice for me to use Linux day-to-day but there are a few programs which I want to use and only run on Windows; the Affinity software amongst others. It would be great, for me personally, if Serif decided to make Linux versions or even just modify them so that Wine could handle them. I am, though, old-school and choose my O/S to run the software I need, not the other way around.
However; I understand how business models work. Serif will have paid for market research and/or conducted their own market research into this topic. No-one on this forum is privy to these results so we can't comment about how many users would, or would not, use Linux versions. The whole point of market research is that, unless there is an overwhelming need, the company will keep quiet on the results. Openly available "statistics" are generally presented by special interest groups and can should be taken with a pinch of salt when making business decisions.
It has to be remembered, as well, that Serif are not out to manipulate the market. Why would a company create software for an operating system in the hope that users will migrate to that OS and therefore create a market? Especially when that software is available on the two main desktop OSs. In order to encourage Linux uptake they would have to stop distributing Windows and Mac versions which is commercially unviable.
The actual demographic they are looking at are potential users of their software who exclusively use Linux. Anyone who uses multiple OSs will simply buy that software on another platform (it doesn't mean they would buy it twice so it's still only one sale).
Serif will make any decision based on a proper business practice. They are unlikely to take much notice of a few users on their forums.
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Snapseed reacted to Alfred in Affinity products for Linux
Thanks for the ‘heads up’. Nextcloud looks like a useful option.
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Snapseed reacted to GuernseyMan in Affinity products for Linux
It's not a bug it's by design. You have a perfect right to ask for Linux support, I would be happy for a Linux version as its the only software holding me back from a complete switch. I agree, it's many peoples platform of choice, including mine, but it is naive to think that they will allocate resources to porting their software based on some forum posts. They will be looking at a proper business analysis of the potential risks and rewards before making such a huge investment.
There are three years of various people asking on this thread for a Linux version and I haven't seen a response from Serif (may have missed it). That is how important they think it is. Serif know their business better than I do and better than you do. This is my third and last post on the topic, life's too short to argue a lost cause.
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Snapseed reacted to Renzatic in Affinity products for Linux
I have a license for Substance Painter and Designer as well, and I'm running it on Fedora 35 no problem. I could also install it natively through Steam if I want, since I crosslinked my accounts.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.
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Snapseed reacted to Pufty in Affinity products for Linux
This does sound like the Linux stereotypical environment and that no mortal should attempt this if they value their sanity, but here I am saying that it's been easy so far for me. Trust me, I'm as 'consumer' as they come.
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Snapseed reacted to Squirrel Logic in Affinity products for Linux
1% of the total desktop users does not equate to 1% of Serif's target demographic. Serif makes design software, not a universal application like a web browser, so you should be taking into account only Serif's potential customers in this argument, and not the entirety of computer users. The number of creative professionals that use (or want to use) Linux is higher than the total population.
The thing is, we don't know exactly what Serif's target demo is. If Serif is only interested in taking current Adobe users (who are ipso facto only Windows and Mac users), then yes, making a Linux version makes no sense. But I would assume that Serif is interested in more than Adobe's current customers that need design software: students, UI designers, front-end developers, film editors, 3D animators, software developers, and marginalized creatives.
I don't know what their target demo is, but I what Serif to know that there are designers who work in software development that want Affinity applications available in Linux, even moreso in web design. I know people who work in animation who would give anything to use something besides The GIMP at work because their 3D pipeline is Linux (Pixar, WDAS).
As someone who has a graphic design degree, who is currently working on 3D assets, does web design and front-end development as part of their job, I'm in Linux for 70% of my day. I spend $323 USD annually on software that I run in Linux (no VM, no WINE). It fluctuates every year, but this year I donated €40 to open-source software that I use in Linux and Windows. Not technically commercial software, but it's software I use commercially, and I gave them my money. That sounds like a business to me. It shows that if it was not open source, I would have paid at least that much money for the software. So abso-freaking-lutely, successful commercial Linux software exists.
Again, I get it. Serif might not care about large film or animation studios. They may not care about software developers. But I think it is the right of customers, and potential customers, to let Serif know that there's a need for it. So instead of pretending to know what Serif's demo is, accept that there is demand for it. The argument that an electric car shouldn't be made because not enough electric cars have been made doesn't make sense to me.
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Snapseed reacted to awakenedbyowls in Affinity for Android
Not really been following this thread but getting the notifs anyway
I'm committed to Apple again for a few years now, but if at some point in the future there was an Android version it might be nice..
I know this was explained by someone but I'm always preoccupied with just designing - I just want to know what button to press to get on with my work - one of the major gripes with the iPad version is when, how and where is the damn app saving stuff?
I've been making sure I have stuff saved by creating a pixel layer and drawing something recognisable from the thumbnails in Files so I can see YES it has SAVED this file as SOMETHING.afdesign so at least so I'm not going to LOSE ANY WORK!
I'm working between windows and iOS and sometimes when I go to my iPad to continue working on something from the Cloud and then I want to save my progress - it only offers me the option "Save A Copy" - not just Save? Why?
So there I was just then saving my work, not that much - and I could only Save A Copy so I renamed the file so I could know it was the same file but with additional work from my iPad. I decided to close everything down in the main menu and reopen the file so I could maybe just Save as normal - AND IT'S JUST SAVED A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL FILE UNDER A NEW NAME+NUMBER WITHOUT THE EXTRA WORK! What ****ing use is that!
Save the file as anything - but when I choose to SAVE it would be helpful to SAVE the FILE as what is it is AT THE TIME! Oh right aye, please save the file.. but save it as it was 10 minutes ago and screw anything I have done in between then and now, because by SAVE I don't mean MAKE SURE MY PROGRESS IS "SAVED" I mean WIPE ALL MY PROGRESS..
Because Apple have to design their OS to be different in every way to Windows..
<insert anti-Apple expletives here>
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Snapseed reacted to Petrel in Astrophotography magazine articles on using Affinity
For the last three months Nik Szymanek, a renowned astrophotographer, has been running Affinity tuition specifically relating to astrophotography in a magazine called Astronomy Now. Published in Britain it's probably widely available elsewhere but, if you're interested, you can get back numbers by mail order. His enthusiasm for Affinity is what drew my attention to the software. I've just been playing with the trial version using his advice and am pretty impressed.
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Snapseed reacted to John Rostron in I am in the process of switching to Linux, would you please support Linux?
This has been asked for many, many times before. See the Affinity on Linux thread under Feature Requests for the Affinity Suite. There are over 1800 messages in this thread!.
The answer is still no.
John
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Snapseed reacted to Robert Gootz in Desperately seeking Lightroom replacement
As stated in the topic... I still do seek a Lightroom replacement as I am sick of the Adobe Creative Cloud. Unfortunately I haven't found a real alternative to Lightroom so far. My search as included ACDsee, ON1, DXO. My hope is that Serif will start the development soon... think the community is asking for a Lightroom competitor for three years now. Will there be an alternative? Or do you have other suggestions?
Kind regards,
Robert.
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Snapseed reacted to Ali in Desperately seeking Lightroom replacement
OK.
I was also going to suggest FastStone Image Viewer (freeware https://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm), but given your last retort, I won't bother.
I don't see where the OP specified Mac or a 'professional' solution.
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Snapseed reacted to Komatös in Desperately seeking Lightroom replacement
Hi @Robert Gootz and welcome to the forums.
Take a look at Dark Table, maybe it's an alternative that suits you.
https://www.darktable.org
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Snapseed reacted to Ali in Desperately seeking Lightroom replacement
They had one many moons ago in the Plus range, and it had become pretty good. It would be a nice addition to Affinity.
I have just started using Phototheca: https://lunarship.com/
I'm quite pleased with it. It handles RAW files well and I have set the option to open in an external editor to APhoto, which works perfectly (it's on an image's right-click menu for ease of access). It has also recognised and imported key words that I must have set using Serif's old title many moons ago (I have imported my entire library of images). It has geo tagging and facial recognition (which has saved me hours of work). I've only been using it for about a week, but so far, so good.
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Snapseed reacted to Ali in Affinity for Android
I have no problem with anyone putting a case for something they would like from Serif; my point is that only they can decide if it's feasible for them as company.
Well, don't read them, then.
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Snapseed reacted to Ali in Affinity for Android
The ONLY question is whether Serif as a company has the capacity to add further cross-platform development to their portfolio. You want Affinity for Android, another bunch in another thread want Affinity for Linux: both sets of voices are strong and compelling, however the reality is that Serif would need to maintain the cross-platform selling point if they developed for either Linux or Android or both, and if they did this, it would also mean taking on more developers.
"Yes, and ... ?" I hear you all cry! Well, yes, in theory that's a logical and easy step, but in reality you are dealing with David, not Goliath. It's truly remarkable what Serif has achieved since starting Affinity. I am a member of a photography forum where at least a third of the membership seem to be using Affinity, and there is even a sub-forum there that deals exclusively with Affinity discussions. Serif has put themselves there, in my opinion, by focusing on what they are currently doing and trying to do it really well.
The other thing to bear in mind is bugs: the bigger the Affinity customer base becomes, the more variety there will be in hardware/software combinations, and therefore the more bugs are likely to rear their heads. As I have said elsewhere, I would rather efforts be concentrated on bug squashing than Serif diversifying further into areas that they cannot realistically fully support.
To understand the real reasons why Serif have not yet shown any signs of diversifying further, we'd need comment from them, but that is not their chosen MO: they remain (rightly, in my view) very guarded about sharing their aspirations, and I can understand why. Aspirations can very quickly be interpreted by a forum readership as promises, and then when those aspirations are not realised, it can lead to a feeling that promises have been broken, and I suspect Serif don't want that sort of vibe going on here.
The comments I have made here are based on a very long association with Serif software and observations of conversations on their two previous support platforms, Community Plus and, before that, the Serif Forums. My relationship with Serif software goes back nearly 30 years (I was an early adopter of their flagship Plus range title, PagePlus), so I am a big fan, and although the deprecation of their Plus range broke my heart, I do understand, from a business perspective, why it was done, and stepping back now into the Serif arena after a break of a few years, I can honestly say that their gamble paid off.
At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what is said in this thread or the Linux one: Serif and ONLY Serif will decide if and when the time is right to diversify, and as they run customer betas, I expect we'll be the first to know here.
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Snapseed got a reaction from Anon172 in Affinity products for Linux
I fully agree with you and I am also not one of those 'must only be free to use and must only be able to read the source code' minority zealots (they do speak loudly though). I am fully in favour of paid applications being available on the Linux platform and I'm happy to pay for good software like Pixeluvo and SoftMaker Office, for example. While I cannot buy free software, I do contribute to projects like Gimp so that improvements can be made and in both cases the motivation is the same because developers should be rewarded for the work that they put in to provide us with useful software.
Things are getting better all the while and we now have the Figma and Lunacy graphic editors and I have used Canva for a number of projects. Indeed, it is possible that we might get Adobe's Photoshop and Illustrator as online apps some time in the future and that would be very welcome. In your case right now, why not try out PhotoLine with Wine?
I do think though that Serif Affinity are doing exactly the right thing by making an iOS app because iPads are used for a lot of professional design work and that's bringing in quite a lot of money for Serif Affinity that in turn feeds into further improvements.
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Snapseed reacted to Pandorino in Affinity products for Linux
Seems like Serif is missing this horse while Adobe is not. Adobe launched last week the browser version of Photoshop and Illustrator. Still not supporting all the features but many would be able to use it on Linux and it's just a matter of time for Adobe to add many more features and move other applications on browser. Like The Linux Experiment says in this video, Photoshop is often cited in the main reasons for not switching to Linux (for whom have that interest, many people stick to Win or Mac anyway), meaning that Linux will probably see more users thanks to Adobe.
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Snapseed reacted to GrayFox in Affinity für Linux?
I too would likie to see Affinity running on Linux, even if only via Wine
Currently, Affinity Photo is the second most requested peice of software being voted for wine compatability, and the number one graphics software being voted on as well
https://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php
If a native Linux version is not going happen, could we at least see some support from someone on the dev side to get it running via Wine?
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Snapseed reacted to Waffelo in Affinity für Linux?
Linux is great for artists and creators, I would love to see Affinity on Linux, I own photo and designer and im using Linux
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Snapseed reacted to Totte in Affinity für Linux?
The sole I'm still running Windows. Lack of Adobe AND/OR Affinity products. Windows has been going downhill for years, shoving bloat and forces software down our throats.
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Snapseed reacted to wonderings in Affinity für Linux?
It is their business and their choice. They have heard that some Linux users want their software. This is not the government working for the people, they do not owe the Linux community anything. There is no voting, no anything unless Serif decides they want to do it and they have made that pretty clear that they are not going to at the moment. Do you use the Affinity software on Windows or Mac?
