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  1. I created a project with facing pages and spread master pages in Beta 249. The master pages have headers and footers, and because it is facing pages, the inner and outer margins for each page is different, allowing for the binding. When such master pages are applied to the project pages, they work fine--until you add a single page. When you do, APub will add a complete second master page spread without consideration for left or right page. In my case I added a new page in the left page location. I expected the right page to remain a right page, along with its header and footer and margins. However, although the new left page looks correct, the right page is simply the left page moved over, so margins, headers, footers, and any vertical guide lines are still left-page, but now on the right. I hate to bring up PP again, but PP is smart enough to know to apply the right page part of the master spread to the right page when a new page is added. In APub, you would need to add two pages and reflow your entire document. This is a deal breaker considering I write novel that are upwards of 300 pages. Recreate as follows: Create a new facing page project. Create a master page spread with different margins for left and right pages to allow for binding. Add vertical guide lines (I use them for marking out bleed because it just works better.) Add different header and footer text frames. (I use a text frame for page number on outside edge of pages, one for title of novel on left page, and one for author name on right page.) Add 10 or so blank pages to the project. Assign the master spread to each project spread. Add a text frame for page contents on each page. Link groups of frames and fill with text. (I copy and paste in novel chapter contents from Scrivener and paste into text frames before linking.) Add a new single page say after page 3, or 5, or 7 to allow for either additional content or reflowing of existing content. You will notice that the new left page is OK, but the old left page that has been moved to be the right page of the spread will still show all left page headers, footers, guides, and margins. If you look at the layers, you will see two complete master spread layers, but there is no way to tell either to be a right page.
  2. Hadn't heard anything from them since Beta 249, and they're about to release. Did some digging to let them know what I found. Just trying to help. Won't post any more on this topic since it seems to be upsetting people.
  3. I can't let this one go because it's so important to me, so I've been doing some digging to see what's happening when a single page is added when master pages are initially applied. The layers in the original spread show the Master Page applied, along with all its components--as expected. When a single page is added between two pages of a spread: First, the new blank page has the correct Master Page side showing on the page--as expected. Second, for the page moved to the next spread, the original Master Page is moved "down and to the left." When I look in Layers, I see the original Master Page with all its components, just as before, but the left side of the Master Page is actually on the background surface to the left of the left page while the right side is visible on the left hand page. The left side is invisible, and I wouldn't have noticed except I clicked on the left side components and their rectangular border appeared on the background. Third, a new Master Page is added to the spread with the left side components appearing on the right hand page, and the right hand components invisible on the background to the right of the right hand page. This behaviour is why the Master Pages go wonky when adding a single page anywhere. If this behaviour is by design, I have to scratch my head and wonder why. If you have a Master Spread, it seems to me you would want to keep consistently throughout the document. If it's a bug, now you know what's happening.
  4. One major issue I reported some time ago regarding Master Pages not being honoured when a single page is inserted still has not been changed. Inserting a single page in APub messes up the Master Page layout. I know you might feel this is a "feature," but to me it's a broken one. In PP Master Pages are always honoured. It looks like Master Pages in APub are only dynamic templates, and not true masters. What boggles my mind is that you own the PP code and could have simply referred to it when coding the APub Master Pages. Your new Master Page philosophy is a deal breaker for me. I can't use APub for laying out novels because the insertion of a single page forces me to reapply the Master Page for ALL SUCCEEDING PAGES and realign all text frames within the margins. In a 250-300 page novel, that becomes untenable. I had great hopes, since I am quite happy with APhoto and switched from Photoshop. But, my APub hopes are dashed. Good for small layouts but not big ones. I'll keep checking in future releases to see if you've changed your Master Page processing. Thanks for the Beta discount, but won't be using it.
  5. Happy for you that you are releasing APub. Sadly, it is not useful to me for laying out my novels because of this issue with Master Pages. Still don't understand why you are not interested in allowing Master Pages to be honoured as they are in PagePlus. With APub, if I add a new page, I have to reapply the Master Page to all succeeding pages, and move the content to the margins. You have the PP code, why couldn't you just follow that? Your APub Master Pages are simply dynamic templates. Unfortunately, this is a deal breaker for me, so I won't be using the discount you kindly offered.
  6. I just installed Beta 312 and tested this again. Unfortunately, nothing appears to have changed. Master Page content still moves. Can't believe you could not duplicate the functionality of PP master pages in APub's new code. After all, PP is your product, and you have access to the original code to see how you did it then.
  7. I created a document as you show above with Master and four pages. I added filler text to the text frames and images to the image placeholders. It looked pretty much like your example. Then I added a new single page using the Master after page 1 (between page 1 and 2). As you can see, everything after page 1 moved down in exactly the same position on the page as it was before the move. The text frames were still linked as before (different font shows that). The newly inserted page is in correct Master layout, but there are no text frame connections. Master page contents in APub does not work the same as Master page contents in PP. First, any text frames in PP where you want to add your own text must be "promoted" to the project page. This means it is no longer associated with the Master page, but becomes normal project page content. The same applies to image placeholders. Any Master content that is NOT promoted remains part of the Master. If you instert a new page as above, all normal project page content is moved to the next page, but the Master spread remains fixed--does NOT move. So, when I create a PP Master page for my novels, I can set headers, footers, and any other content I want to remain fixed on the spread. I "promote" text frames to fill with novel text. That way, when I add a page, or remove a page, the headers, footers, and Master content remains fixed. In APub, all Master content moves, as per the attached image. The results of your example are exactly the same in PP as in APub, but you do not have any Master content that should remain fixed, like headers and footers which are different on left and right pages. In PP they remain in place, In Apub they move--see my example in a previous post where the header and page number text frames moved to the next page. In Apub, Master page content is only loosely connected with the Master page, where PP Master page content that is not "promoted" is absolutely connected and the spread layout is always honoured.
  8. What I have been experiencing is this: Page 1 is unchanged. New Page 2 will have the single text frame if you specify using the same Master, otherwise blank or whatever other Master you specify. Page 2 moves to Page 3, as is (will not adjust to different margins). Page 3 moves to Page 4, as is (will not adjust to different margins). Page 4 moves to Page 5, as is (will not adjust to different margins). Right now, the master layout is not honoured when a single page is inserted. I expect the added content to move, but the master layout should remain in place. This is a deal breaker for me since I write novels and often need to add or remove a page here and there. The same thing happens if you delete a single page. If master page layouts are not honoured, they are not really master pages, just template pages.
  9. I started a new project in APub Beta 249 today to test working with my normal novel-writing workflow: write in Scrivener, layout in APub. In this particular novel, I use both English and French. I started a new chapter. My Master Pages are set to default to English (Canada) as are the Assets I use for chapter and body text frames. I copied the text from Scrivener (also English-Canada) to APub. As expected the French text showed the red squiggly line to indicate a spelling error. I highlighted the offending text (and yes, I was very careful about exactly what I highlighted--no leading or trailing spaces or punctuation), and changed the language to French (France). This removed the red squigglies, but the first English word following was now showing the red squiggly. The language still showed English (Canada). When I changed the language to French (France) and back to English (Canada), the red squiggly under the English word disappeared. I did this several times--for all the French phrases. Oddly, the behaviour was inconsistent. Sometimes, after changing that first English word's language, the French phrase showed the red squiggly again, even though the language for the phrase was still set at French (France). Using the old addage "if it's quirky--roboot" I closed APub and opened it again, then the new project. To my surprise, all the French words showed squigglies, as well as only some of the first English words. When I checked the Character->Language setting, they were still appropriately set to French (France) and English (Canada).
  10. ToOldForThis

    Spell checking quirks.

    Looks like this is fixed now. I've switched languages with no extraneous words highlighted. Thanks!
  11. Unless you have added an option I haven't found, adding a single page still does not honour the master page layout--still pushes master page elements to next page. (Lots of other good stuff fixed, though!)
  12. In PP, the master page is honoured and only additional content is moved. For example, any text frames added, or promoted from the master, any images, etc. are moved over, but all the fixed master page items stay where they are. In a 200+ page document, adding a page near the beginning still looks fine in PP all the way through, but so far in APub the master page content is not stationary but moves, making somewhat of a mess for the rest of the document. This one issue would make it a deal breaker for me, as I would have to reapply master pages to each page, as well as move all the additional content. All you would need to do is leave the master page content alone, and just move other stuff.
  13. It looks like the filled arrows use the empty arrows, fill them, and put another outline on the outside of the shape. It's the extra outline that causes the size difference.
  14. I was able to replicate this again in Beta 257. On the image below, you can see the header on the left page is correct: page number far left, book title centred. This was the single new page added. On the right, the header is wrong; it should be page number far right, author name centered. Instead, it simply moved the left page header over. The content is in the right place now, because I moved it. Content is a text frame added as an Asset, not on the master page. All succeeding pages have been moved the same way, so all succeeding pages are incorrectly placed.
  15. ToOldForThis

    Spell checking quirks.

    Tried the language switches again in Beta 257, and the same thing is happening. I didn't seem to happen for the first few changes, but once it did, it continued to happen all the time. On the image below, on the left page, "With" is showing the red squiggly. The previous line language is changed to French (France), and "With" is showing as English (Canada). On the right page, a couple of dialogue paragraphs are French (France) the "The" which as the red squiggly, is English (Canada).
  16. Just printed part of a large project as book and booklet with an HP Envy 5549, double-sided on Letter size paper. Because regular paper won't print borderless, I had to scale down to 95% so nothing got cut off. In both cases, the result appears correct. I had to be sure to set the flip to short side, otherwise the second side was upside down. No problems with sheets not going in far enough to do the second side.
  17. Well...actually...I set the APub language to different values and the search DOES work...as long as you are searching for UK English words. Tried English US and French which both gave me results, but the search term could not be in non-UK English. Limitation seems to be the actual Help file language. Setting APub to French still gave me the same UK English Help file. I think the search engine is working, but the Help has not been localised yet.
  18. I have to agree with Chistian, the page samples in Studio/Pages are quite large. I much prefer smaller pages like those in PP, which allows me to see more, and get through them faster.
  19. ToOldForThis

    Have to re-import assets

    I'm running Beta 249 with all my previous Assets still in place from many updates ago. Tried them out just to be sure, and everything works fine.
  20. I just tried doing several Help searches in Beta 249, and there were no problems on any of the searches. Pretty fast, too! Links in topics seem to be working as well.
  21. I've been playing around with Beta 238, and noticed something strange--or at least strange to me. When I click on Preview Mode, all the lines disappear, just as expected, and I get what should be how the page will ultimately look. Ah, but one little thing...if there is a text frame which is overflowing, that is the frame cannot contain all the text in it, the frame borders disappear, as expected, but the overflow is not hidden, but still showing on the page. If I am using Preview Mode to check how things will look, everything looks fine, and I might not notice that a text frame is actually overflowing. It would seem to me that using Preview Mode should automatically flip display overflow text off. You can recreate this with any text frame. Just fill it with real text (not filler, because it will autoshrink), then change the size of the text frame so that it can no longer contain the whole text. Then click Preview Mode. The overflow text is still showing.
  22. ToOldForThis

    why

    I agree with JPSports that, at this point (Beta 238), APub has the makings of a great program. Neither InDesign, nor PP, started out feature rich, but they were pretty much on par with the other DTP's of the day. The APub team has a huge job ahead of them trying to get APub where it needs to be. To use a car analogy, it's hard to convince someone to buy a VW Beetle, or Toyota Carolla, when they are already driving Lamborginis and Ferraris! Granted, I've been working with PP for years, and I used InDesign as well--still prefer PP over InDesign--and find it difficult to do things in APub. As was mentioned, workflow is quite different, but this is to be expected of any new product. To be successful, APub will need to offer most of the now-essential features found in the other products. I have to credit Serif with creating an excellent APhoto, certainly good enough to move me away from Photoshop, but it took a couple of years and release 1.6 to get there. It's a catch-22 for Apub--the longer you wait to release, the more features the competition adds to their products to pull even farther ahead. That said, APub needs some very important features that have already been mentioned and voted on in droves before it releases, if it wants us to move from PP or InDesign. I love PP, and I would like to love its replacement--APub.
  23. Just tried with Beta 238 on Windows 8.1 with no problems. A new project was created with a single page.
  24. Just for fun, I took @Seneca's post, copied the whole thing to clipboard, then pasted it on a blank page in my test document. The paste created a new text frame with lots of space between the lines--kind of expected, but everything text was in the text frame. Since my Options are set to show the overflow of a text frame, many lines of text appeared to be "outside" of the text frame. Resizing the text frame changes that. Doing a Select All (CTRL + A) in the text frame selected everyting inside and outside the frame boundaries to show that it all belonged to the same frame. Showing the overflow lets me see at a glance if I need to add another text frame to link to the first, or to make changes to the framatting of everything in the frame.
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