Eugene Tyson
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Hi Everyone
Spine widths for books are usually calculated by the printer, it's based on the micron thickness of the stock of paper, the thickness of the glue, if it's threadsewn or not, and most importantly the amount of pages in the publication.
Spine widths are only for books that are perfect bound (with a spine on them).
It's a bit of a pain when the printer comes back and tells you it should be 15mm instead of 8mm that you originally hoped it would be.
I've created an excel file just for this reason - it gets you 99% of the way to the correct spine width.
Insert the page numbers, then select if it's threadsewn or not.
Follow the table to match your stock to paper weight to get a close approximation of the spine width.
Check with your printers to ensure all is ok.
Hope it helps!
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I checked the colour values in Acrobat and they match what's in your document and the images look the same as in Acrobat as in Affinity.
What PDF viewer are you using?
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On 10/16/2018 at 5:00 PM, fde101 said:
ok, so at least Adobe did *something* right :-)
Then @Eugene Tyson shouldn't be forced to update and can keep using the version that already works.
Interesting... thanks!
Not particularly. Will have newer files sent in in the new file formats.
Which means they will be backsaved through the cloud. And any new features that were used in the latest file format will be broken in the older version (as the older version didn't have it).
I'll eventually have to upgrade. But ok for now.
Publisher missing some bits and bobs, hope they get there though. Love the software.
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Might have to switch now... CC2019 was released yesterday, and my older mac is not compatible, need to upgrade, but can't upgrade due to integrating services on the server... maybe forced to move.
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Bleed in new doc - yes!
This is shaping up nicely.
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Neither exist in Publisher.
Hitting tab is as close as you can get for Presentation.
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11 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:
Yes it is, patience please.
Thanks for the reply, good to know.
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Disappointed that Bleed Settings are not included in the new document dialog box. Is this being looked at? Reported it weeks ago and it gathered a lot of support, hence the disappointment.
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For years at a career events exhibition show we were asked to incorporate huge QR codes on the stands and also on all the flyers.
We had the QR code direct to a unique URL so we could track the amount of times it was accessed.
Over 5 years, noobody once scanned the QR codes, from either the large ones printed on the stands, and the ones printed on the flyers.
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The whole dialog box is completely messed up.
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Eps is also a legacy format only supported by Adobe for legacy workflows, or archaic workflows if you will.
IDML file is an InDesign Mark Up Language, it's essentially a zip file, if you rename the file to .zip you can extract the content. It's basically a glorified XML file. It is used as a way to save back to older versions of InDesign. But also comes in handy if a file is corrupt or behaving strangely, you can export to IDML and open in InDesign and it rebuilds the file.
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I'd need to know more about the RIP and more about the workflow to offer any advice.
A separated file is different to separate plates.
The RIP calculates all the information and outputs plates based on this.
What software are you printing from directly to a RIP? How are PDFs causing problems? I'm suprised a litho printers is not using a PdF centric workflow.
And HankScorpio is me - when I'm on mobile it posts with that name as it was my original signed up name here - but reverts back to my old name when on my phone.
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It's been asked many times - and no definite answer.
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7 hours ago, Raymondo said:
Yes that was how it used to be done but it was always subject to possible errors but setting out with InDesign has been a much more straight forward, quicker and safer way to do it. I'm not sure where you get this "misinformation" cheap jibe from, I think you must be watching too many Russian spy films!!!. What I have said is completely correct, I have not mislead the originator of this thread, using guides IS the only way to mark out a template at the present time and yes, I have not had any response from Serif on this issue to say this an oversight which will be rectified soon or before commercial launch, it might have allayed some of the negativity. I have always been very supportive of Serif and the Affinity range up until now and I have always given positive feedback but I feel that they are losing their way abit and throwing things out too soon without proper consultation with the professional community which to me seems to be the case with Publisher as there are so many glaring omissions that should have been there on release of the first beta. This topic is something that has been raised by a number of others in this forum which seems to concur with my views. Maybe you have time on your hands to lay designs out the old way but I do not in an ever faster moving design environment. Don't bother replying, I think we need to leave things right here. I won't be revisiting this thread as I have said all I need to on this issue.
I agree with you - it needs to be added.
But you can't make claims that it's not safe and it's not quick. That's misinformation.
Yes - inDesigns feature is good - but it's not great. There's switches you need to flick in InDesign to get this to work.
Affinity could make this better.
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On 9/14/2018 at 10:56 PM, wyenphoto said:
I have a new document with a single page (front cover) followed by two page spreads (facing) and end with a single page (back cover). How do I create a front and back cover with a perfect bound spine and get rid of the single pages? Similar to creating an inside spread except its for the cover. Missing feature or is it normally like this?
I know the width of the spine. So my work around is to double the single page width and add the width of the spine in the Spread Setup. Is this the right way to do it for printing?
UPDATED Sept 17, 2018:
My understanding now is to create two files. One for the cover and one for inside spreads.
The cover will consist of a singular page but custom formatted to include spine width. The right side of the page will be the front cover and the left side of the page will be the back cover.
As for the inside spreads, the first single page is considered as page 1 on the right side when it is opened. For a magazine the inside of the front cover and the right side is sometime consider as a spread or page 1 and 2.
Printninja consider the first page is the right side when you open the cover but that's for book printing.
Typically for a book cover with a spine I would have a separate file.
Yes, the only way to do it in Publisher at the moment is by creating a document at the size of the overall size and also including spine width.
For example, if it's 210mm wide, with a 10mm spine - then it's 210+10+210 = 430 mm wide.
Add 2 columns and make the column width 10mm.
That's pretty much how every book cover was designed and sent to printers up to when InDesign allowed multiple page sizes.
On 9/15/2018 at 12:30 PM, Raymondo said:The only way at the moment is to use guides but this is not a good way to do it. At present, publisher will not allow you to create more than a two page spread and have the functionality to change individual page widths. I have raised this issue, and it is an important issue but, and I might be wrong but here but Serifs response was not encouraging and there has not been any acknowledgement that this is considered an essential function. So for now I’m afraid it’s guides, guides guides.
Just because you don't agree with a way to do it is no reason to spread misinformation. Creating a book cover prior to InDesigns multi-page size feature was not cumbersome at all, it was a fairly standard way of creating it.
People often sent in a front, back and spine PDF file. Nothing wrong with that either. There's many ways to do it. And just because you're used to a certain way of something working doesn't make other ways "not a good way to do it".
I get that you're disappointed this feature is not in Publisher - but write concise posts and push for the change in positive ways.
Correct, Publisher will not allow you to create a 2 page spread - it's a bit of an oversight by Publisher - actually it's a huge oversight.
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If it's a saddle stitched or perfect bound book then it will be fine. Just make sure that you have bleed on all 3 sides in the document setup and bleed applied to all pages.
Any image that spans the page will be fine.
If it's a wiro bound book then you will need to use non-facing pages, and duplicate the image.
The image resizing within a frame is due to be fixed - it's a known bug.
All in in all - I wouldn't recommend using Beta products for actual work.
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A lot of 3rd party PDF viewers don't comply to all of Adobe's standards/modules, the only true viewer of PDFs (whichi is an Adobe file format) is Adobe Acrobat.
You may want to report this to Affinity too, as there may be something they can include in PDF exports for 3rd Party viewers to ensure it displays better.
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22 minutes ago, BennyD said:
Yes, those were the two I also found. Please be honest, but 400$ or 500$ is not what I find is really affordable, especially not for students.
So, we still need a solution. Maybe a imposition feature in Affinity Publisher, hu?
Not being bad though - you think that Affinity can build a better one into the software and keep it at the low price as per other apps they have?
There's a bit of a price for them because they are worth it - it is specialist software - and why I keep coming back to the reason why it shouldn't be included as part of Publisher.
However, I hope Affinity opens up the apps to developers, so that they can install Plugins - that would be very welcome.
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What's the PDF like if you view it in Acrobat?
If you want to send me a private message I can share my email with you and you can send via wetransfer if you want.
I understand the files ares sensitive, and it's difficult to trust someone on the internet. But I've been doing this years on Adobe forums, since about 2006.
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Not sure what your site is - but there are plugins for wordpress
https://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/flipbook/
For instance, you could setup a Issu account and load your pdfs up there - then have a plugin for your website.
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Just now, wonderings said:
I hope so. Indesign has scripts you can get that add different functionality. There are a few I use for importing multi page PDF's while applying reduction or enlarging at a certain percentage. Super useful when needing to bring in a large PDF to adjust and prep for imposing.
You can also install 3rd party plugins which is superhandy.
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I'll take a look!