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Thanks @Dan C and for adding a video to it even. I get what you mean and show. Honestly I wouldn't even know why I would ever want to mask the artboard, so it was an accident that I got in that state in the first place (and I only saw later that it was actually masked). Thanks again for the clear explanation. Makes complete sense now.

Not sure what is going on here, but it looks like a bug to me. When enabling the children of an artboard suddenly the bounding box of the Artboard changes and prevents us to actually change the artboard size. [edit] Although while doing another test I'm not sure this is a bug. When starting a new artboard and drag a layer in there it looks different compared to the other artboard. The first artboard looks like a masking group, while the second is not. Still I find the behaviour as seen in the video strange as it prevents us from resizing the artboard so still doesn't look right to me. As to me it doesn't make sense that the handles of the artboard move and prevent us from sizing the artboard (which is still selected), only because it's children are getting enabled. I'll include the affinity file in the attachment. Please see video: (BTW sorry for the missing part on the right, it was scaled in OBS and only now see it, but I'm toggling the layers on and off there) artboard-issue-designer.mp4 [edit] differences between artboards project.afdesign

"Faucet's Last Bath". The faucet is fully designed in Affinity Designer, than animated in 2d using Moho Pro and than finished in 3d in Blender. last-bath-marked-720plow-24fps.mp4

No worries. Good that it's not in the forum! And thanks for the quick response!

@Dan C I've read your post. I clearly wrote that it's not personal for me, that I don't have anything against Serif, even the opposite. I put myself also into your perspective and proposed to let it rest. But it looks like you don't agree and you keep defending yourself with a lot of repeating words while I didn't attack you. My words clearly didn't reach you. Sorry you feel that way. It doesn't help neither of us if I will respond to this again now. Everything has been said. If there's new information on the issue I'll let you know.

What the freak happened to this thread title? Suddenly it's displaying an url in there. I didn't change anything. I changed it back to what it was now, but there seems to be something off on the forum here

I guess the real question here is wheter the debugging of a PAYED product is the responsibilty of the seller or the client using it. It's not an open source project, so I think it's the responsibilty for Serif to go for quality products and testing to begin with. Not the other way around. That said, of course I understand there's a gray area and as a 25+ years developer I also get that it's difficult to reproduce some things sometimes. So I help you guys in finding issues, although very little of these actually got fixed while mentioned years ago even, which I see happening with a lot of other issues here mentioned by others (also very simple things to solve), and is quite discouraging tbh. But that's another thing, just as a side note. I am all for helping you guys in trying to fix an issue, but it has to be within the reasonable. To create a new Windows account for something clearly wrong in the Affinity software I think is far beyond reasonable. Also you asking me to supply a screen recording is quite odd, as that's exactly what I did starting this thread. Your assumption that I'm the only one having this issue is also quite strange. For one there's a thank you like on the opening thread. Normally people don't use that button when they don't recognise an issue, so that might be a user also having the issue. But even if that wouldn't be the case, how do you know I'm the only one having this issue? Of course, if I do another project in Affinity and have the issue again, think about it and don't have a tight schedule I'll make another screen recording. But that's all extra to try to help you guys fix an issue in YOUR product. Which I am a payed client of. Not the other way around. Again; pointing your finger at me or Windows directly without even knowing what's up is not very professional IMO and very premature. The fact that you are not able to replicate the issue says only that; that you are not able to replicate the issue. It doesn't say nothing about how many people are facing this issue and it doesn't say nothing about where this issue is related to or what might cause this. I completely understand and have patience if you are not able to find an issue. I do have an issue with you acting like I'm the only one having this issue and pointing to other things than just accepting the idea that this might indeed be an issue inside Affinity and that you're not dealing with a beginner here. Even if it would be an issue that is very rare, which I highly doubt, than still this is an issue inside Affinity that needs to be solved. Again; this happened to me in several NEW files already and it's quite disturbing the workflow. Bottom line: Please keep things straight and don't twist things around or demand things from others which are your responsibility, only because you can't find the issue directly. And for the record: for me this is in no way personal, nor do I have an issue with Serif. I like your products, use them happily and I also get that it must be frustrating for you not being able to replicate this issue. I totally get that. It also doesn't mean that I'm not willing to help, because I am. I also advocate for Affinity products. But when it comes to fixing issues like this it cannot only come from the client side and things should be within the reasonable. If things are clearly not file related than it is not reasonable for me to send copyrighted files not allowed to be send for instance as an example and creating another Windows account is not something I want to do on a production machine. So please also try to see the other side. I propose to let it rest for now and when I use Designer again and spot the issue I try to make a screenrecording of it. Hopefully that helps you find the issue. Although I would doubt that it would give you any new information that you cannot already see in the screen recording above. As when it happens it will most probably look exactly the same. And when I knew a pattern to when this occurs I would've already told you.

Honestly it surprises me that there even is a message about this 'point of no return' in beta software. That's pretty darn cool and user friendly that Serif doesn't have to do. I've never seen that in any other software so far as normally people know that using beta versions is ot own risk always. +1 for Serif on this customer friendly thing for greatly thinking along!

Not sure if this comment is of any help (and I didn't read all comments above, so please forgive me if it's already in there), but just in case; I never encountered this issue (and had all versions 2 installed up to 2.3.1 now). I'm only using the EXE-installers (so never the MSIX installers) and I am on Windows 11 pro. Maybe the issue only appears on Windows 10 and/or the MSIX type installers? Just a thought. Maybe it helps

Backstage/Making of 'Tilo - Master Reel' 🙂 (Only Moho rigging/animation/masking etc. part as I wasn't even planning to create such a heavy project when I started a month ago, so unfortunately didn't record all Affinity design work)

Thanks a lot for this one! This one I'll use all the time for sure

Thanks Stuart (also for your like!). [edit] Oh damn... I thought you were talking about 'normal tags', but now I get it. Yes it's working now! So the kind people at Serif were probably doing the tag choosing for me in the past sometimes as it was 'magically' adding a blue tag before. Nice to know we ARE in control of this! Thanks again Thanks. I love reel to reel recorders. We had one at home in the past and I loved playing with it as a child. BTW Hope the tentacles, who dance and play the instruments in the video and tease each other, are a little bit more like reality?

@Dan C This is getting a bit weird now. And it strongly gives me the impression that there is just no intention to even look into this. You ask me again now to send a file, as if this is a file specific issue. Which it is clearly not. Because it's happening to ALL FILES generated with the latests Affinity version(s) and this was never an issue in earlier version 1 versions of Affinity. Also I'm not using any Affinity user account and this has nothing to do with any Windows user-account. I don't have anything out of the ordinary here, just Windows Pro on a powerful machine. It's dissapointing you keep pointing your finger at me (and Windows 11) instead of just fixing the issue or even show any sign of wanting to do any fixing. I'm happy to try things out if you need help fixing it, but please stop blaiming things that are far fetched, like Windows itself, while no other software has this issue, Affinity didn't have this issue before, and it just doesn't make sense either.

@Dan C I hereby bump this one, because that single time surely wasn't an exception as I've bumped into this issue quite a lot last weeks doing more in Designer for an animation I was working on. It would be nice to see such a tag on top of this thread to know it's actually on the issues list of the developers. So far it looks like nothing is in the works to fix this issue and the bugfix version 2.3.1 that came out yesterday didn't have a fix for this looking in the change log. Could this issue please be taken care of and put on the things-to-fix list? + could this issue be moved to the Issues forum please? Thanks in advance!

Out of curiousity: Does anybody know how to get these blue labels in front of the title? Is it Serif doing this, or something we can do? (last time I think it either went automatic or manually by moderators?)

Yes! The project I was talking about is finally completed and just got published online! The spiral tool was used to create the tapes inside the reels. You can view it here;

Yes!! Super glad I can finally share this Music Video Visuals with Character Animations now. Put a lot of work, time and effort into this one and had to 'kill many darlings' during the process, but with no regrets! Design and Illustrations were all made in Affinity Designer. Also the new Spiral tool was great for doing the inner wound tapes! That tool arrived just in time! Animation was completely done in Moho 14 Pro. I've made and audio mastered the music, and also programmed Moho plugin scripts to use the Affinity Designer Spine JSON export to export all graphics as trimmed PNG's and import these with all auto-positioning into Moho quickly and easily. I've also written a script to animate the tape deck by keyframing on speed and accelerations instead of animating on angles. Hope you enjoy it as much as I had while creating it! 🙂 And if you do, please also like it on Youtube for the algorithm and stuff! Would be nice! Video (for backstage/making of; see below in this thread! ) :

I wouldn't know a reason why not to as there's quite a lot of differences between the quality of tools and VectorStyler isn't very expensive, but maybe I'm missing something. Just wanted to help you with your thread. But no worries, it's your thread. Do whatever you like. Best whishes for 2024!

@v_kyr If you want to expand your list; I recently used the tracing feature inside VectorStyler and that one was pretty good I'd say. So you might want to add that to your list. BTW I only have VectorStyler for 'just in case' I need some special feature Designer has not yet included, like this tracing now. But I honestly never used it for anything other than tracing so far, as it's way too much like Illustrator for me (and doesn't have the improvements over Illustrator as Designer has and is crashing often, while designer is way more stable). But its also great to see there's more competition on vectortools nowadays and that's good for everybody. Moho Pro (animation software) also has a tracing feature BTW, but although that can give quite good results some times, it's not detailed or sufficient enough other times. And people using Moho already know that the feature exists, so won't look here to find this list anyways and it's a little expansive to buy only for the trace feature since there are alternatives. It's great value when also doing animation though.

@Dan C I would honestly find it hard to believe this to even optionally be an issue in the OS. Theoretically everything is possible, yes, but, no offense, pretty far fetched for such an issue to think this could be an OS issue if you ask me. But I'll keep an eye on it.

And we're still pleased with it! Now built into moho 14 'natively'. Still thanks for all the hard work!

I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully dissagree. Both files were created in the exact same version of Affinity Designer with the exact same settings and on the exact same machine and never've been somewhere else. Affinity Designer didn't even had an update since. Also when I open the file I experienced this bug in (the one you see in the video) in Affinity now it doesn't have this issue. So we both agree on and have concluded that Affinity Designer is not stable on this, but this doesn't looks like anything file specific to me as a developer. If this would've been file specific the same thing would be replicatable by opening the same file and doing the same. But it's not; when I select that same group in the viewport now it works. The question is for how long, but that's the same with other files, because it's obvious now there's something working one time, but not another time. Super Nice! Thanks for sharing! @Frankentoon Studio love your style!

@Dan C I see that with the exact same settings/affinity software this IS working in another project I'm working on. So it's starting to look like a bug. Unless I am missing a feature, than I'm all ears!

Thanks for the quick response. Here it was a group btw (used Ctrl+G to create it) You mean this with 'settings you have set for the Layers Studio'? That scene you have there looks awesome btw. Very nice!

Thanks! And watch this space, because there's something coming up where I do use that spiral tool! (When I read the Affinity change log about that spiral tool I thought I would never use it. Yet a day later I really needed it and it worked out great for the project I'm currently working on! I'll post it as soon as it's done!)