pixelinkmedia
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ALL I am testing with is a square with a gradient with one end having a transparency.
So, all the apps handle the grad/trans differently.
If I create my test in CDR and try to open it in AD.... the grad/trans is a bitmap
And visa versa... AD (export to EPS) opened in CDR produces an image
I realize this is not specific to AD.... I just with all players in this market would have one standard format.
This is a bummer.
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Okay.... SVG isn't working either.
So, exporting gradients and transparencies to PDF, EPS or SVG all converts the gradient/transpar. to bitmaps.
Are you kidding me.
So, how can I make a vector file that is supported by AI, CDR or any other vector app?
I can export EPS from AD - then reopen in AD... works fine.
If you do this with AI it is the same... it can open its own exported EPS file.
I had the same problem when I had Adobe Illustrator. Exported EPS didn't always import properly into CDR or InkScape
You mean after 30+ years of vector software being on the market.... software companies can't do better than this?
So, basically... if I want to create vector "STOCK: graphic templates that will work inside any vector program... tough luck!!
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2 hours ago, MikeW said:
As EPS cannot contain transparency, EPS is at least out as a transport medium to either AI or CD and retain transparency.
Gradients from AD can be an issue in AI, but generally open in CD fine. AI can see them as an unknown shading type depending on the PDF export type. Heck, maybe all of them.
AI is the absolute worst application to open a PDF anyway. Adobe will tell you the same. You can try SVG into both AI and CD.
Really, if the goal is to exchange work from AD to either application, why use AD at all? This would apply mostly to AI. It simply doesn't play nicely with non-Adobe applications. I do generate art in another application when I need to return an AI file to a client. I generally stop drawing in my chosen application before effects are needed, then port that to AI to finish off in.
I get what you are saying... BUT... I don't have Illustrator anymore because I HATE abode CC and their ridiculous PR/Support and bugs.
So, I want to produce vector artwork that will play nice with all vector applications.
I figured EPS is the most standard, but knowing it doesn't save to true vector with simulated gradients/transparency I guess I will have to try SVG now
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1 hour ago, firstdefence said:
I knew you were going to say that,
It's amazing in this age of digital media that we have all of these issues with file types, it needs some serious reviewing and restructuring, I can't believe how clunky and duck taped this all is. There should be some sort of standards because as far as I can see its desperate for it. All of these proprietary file types just make things overly complicated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_graphics_file_formats
No... I was typing on my phone and you know how the phone wants to try and interpret words for you. I hate that.
I knew I wanted to say EPS, but got ESP without double-checking
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So, does this mean exporting for AI is out?
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2 minutes ago, v_kyr said:
Hmm I see you are on Windows, I tried under MacOS instead, not sure if it makes any behaviour difference here since usually it shouldn't!
Well, could be.
I am sure they have 2 running dev code-bases for each platform
Well, I left a bug report. I am off to do other things.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!!!
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Here is after clicking the Artboard Tool and Adding two boards.
I have tried manually creating artboard and using the Insert Artboard button on top
NOT WORKING
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Well, it's not working for me.
Here is my initial setup
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Hmmm.... how is this possible?
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Figured it out... its when you ADD a 2nd artboard.
It stays on web only after the 1st, but after the 2nd, it reverts to Print
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2 minutes ago, v_kyr said:
Further if I first create a new Web document (without the [ ] create Artboard option checked) and then use instead the Artboard tool to create manually my Artboards on that new document it also doen't change to Print and keeps staying at Web. But it will then disable on the doc settings panel the Web type and page toggles, as it does in your case with the unchangable Print settings there!
Well it doesn't for me... once you add an Artboard after the initial setup... it changes it to Print
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Just now, v_kyr said:
It has to do with Artboard usage/handling, if you don't use Artboards it won't do that!
If I don't select artboards, I only get 1 "page" at 1280 x 720... this is a single web image.
The point of using artboards to to create individual web images within one document file.
And, since I do use the artboards when I create web graphics. And the artboards will be different sizes.
Then that means, the "Web" doc type is really not a web doc type unless you stick to the default dimensions of one image
And please don't tell me you create multiple web images on one canvas page... that would be ridiculous
This seems screwed up to me.
I am a programmer as well... this is just not proper workflow standards.
You don't confuse the user with quirky setups like this.
I love this app because it can do artboards way better than AI... but this "Doc Type" implementation needs to be re-evaluated in my opinion.
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10 minutes ago, v_kyr said:
Nope, if I create a new plain Web WXGA document save that close and reopen it, it still is setup as a Web document!
Though I can imagine that somebody during the AD sw-design phase didn't thought it to be used that way for multipage Ai document imports, or they just messed something up there for Ai imports, artboards and doc settings. - However I agree it's annoying that you can't change the doc type here for Ai imports at all.
It only works if you don't change the artboard size from the default 1280 x 720
I changed the artboard to 367 x 320... and it changes it to "Print" (and that is even before saving it.
But, if I am using web, I should be able to change the artbord size and Doc type should stay on Web
Weird
Screen below...
- 1) Initial setup of "Web" type
- 2) After changing the size of my artboard and then re-oping Document Setup.... it says "Print"
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Better yet.... I will post this thread in Bugs thread
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1 minute ago, walt.farrell said:
That does seem confusing, and possibly like a bug.
However, suppose you had a web-type document. What will you do with it when you're done? If you're exporting it as a PDF, have you tried using File->Export and then specifying the "PDF for web" preset? I get a multi-page PDF when I do that, with each artboard on its own page of the PDF document.
Oh yeah, I can still export to image or to PDF.
When you create a new AD file, you get to choose "Print, Print (Press-Ready), Photo, Web, Devices)
However, after you save a "Web" doc type... it reverts to "Print."
So now, I don't see what the difference is between "Web" and "Print" if everything just saves to Print doc type anyways.
Maybe the DEV's will read this and see that this seems weird to us.
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11 minutes ago, MikeW said:
Maybe MEB's answer here would help?
Mike
I'm set with this... I just use the Create Slices like you said... works fine.
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Guess what I discovered.
Any new document I create with the "Web" document type.
After you save it, it automatically changes the type to "Print"
I opened up my Slides (last screenshot above) that was created as "Web" type
I go into Document Setup and it says "Print"
I wonder if this is a bug.
Even though I can do the slices thing.... what is the point of the "Web" document type if it reverts to Print anyways?
Confusing.
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Okay.... I have to manually do the "Slices"
Yeah... it would be nice to just convert one doc to another.
Thanks
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And just so you know what a WEB export persona should look like...
See this screen... it has multiple "layers" for each artboard.
In the Document Setup... the type is set to "Web"
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I guess you are not understanding what I have been saying.
Please read carefully...
- I have an AI file that has 12 artboards (I use this artwork for websites)
- I open that file in AD
- All the artboards display in AD just as you see in screen below (except with white backgrounds)
- I goto the Document Setup dialog (as pictured in screenshot above)
- There I can change the background from white to Transparent. I can also change the DPI to 72
- However, I CANNOT change the TYPE to "Web".... it only says "Print"
So, what I end up with after saving it to an AD file is that the document is a "Print" document and not a "Web Document.
The difference is that for a Web Doc, each artboard is a separate "layer" when viewed in the Export Persona
But in a Print doc, all the artboards appear on just one layer in the Export Persona... because it's a Print DOC
So, I can't export the images as separate web images because all of them print as ONE IMAGE... just like a Print Doc would do.
A WEB DOC is for website images... it exports individual images
A Print DOC is for printed documents... it exports just one image or one PDF
Make sense?
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So, saving the AI file to AD with the "Print" type only gives me one page in the export persona... basically it sees it as a Print document
How to get it to be a web document?
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My AI file has 12 artboards.
And all 12 artbords open and display as artboards in AD
So, I want to save the opened AI file (PDF as you say) to a Web Document
But I can't change the Document Type from "Print" to "Web"
I can change the background to transparency, I can change DPI... but not Type
So, the only way I can do this recreate each artboard in a new "Web" type doc in AD
And copy/paste the artwork unto each new artboard.
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Can anyone help me with this??
Export to EPS for AI use
in Pre-V2 Archive of Affinity on Desktop Questions (macOS and Windows)
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Side note.... the only way I can make an EPS compliant with all vector apps is to keep all basic vector objects and do not use gradients or transparencies.
So, shadows would have to be a grey object and not an Outer Shadow (like in AD) - Drop shadow in the industry
Basically... keep it real basic with single colors for all objects