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Leo Mikaelson got a reaction from FdelS in Affinity products for Linux
You really do not give up. Opinionated, without an open mind.
Continue to believe in your own words and yes I do have experience within the photography industry, design & development.
This software will not be used by me so this whole debate is pointless and yes a comment like that is a comment of a fool, if the cap fits....
nJoy
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Leo Mikaelson got a reaction from FdelS in Affinity products for Linux
Well I literally just registered on this forum after reading some of the views of what Linux is used for (web browsing lol) and also how it is run on second hand computers (again lol) and how there is no-one to support linux machines (again again lol) and also how your company believes that linux is a budget option ...omg!
Do you know how many professional businesses use linux? Military Groups? Public services?
Do you also realise that the majority of linux users (which you seem to call nerds..rude!) are far more technically minded than most of the users on other OS's.
Why not go out and buy a PC? You say. A PC is a personal computer which can have whatever OS you choose to have on it actually... so as a debian user I do have a PC.
Second hand computers run linux? This just makes me cringe! My laptop which I run a customised debian distro has a intel i7 3k CPU, 16GB DDR4, 2GB Dedicated Graphics, 1TB SSD (running /home), 128gb m.Sata (running the OS) along with a 2 Wifi Cards, a 4g sim Module and another 256GB USB 3.0 for addition storage. Not all linux users run rasberian/mint or ubuntu.
I researched your software hoping that finally there would be some software company out there making a decent photo editing suite for linux and stumbled upon this nonsense.
Instead of trying to compete with photoshop (which you do seem to do a good job at doing btw) on windows and mac operating systems why not actually create something that has no competition and would be appreciated by a group of computer enthusiast. You mention support but us linux users support each other so actually it wouldn't really need much support lets be real.
Anyway clearly at the moment, even though points have been made and even though the linux communities are growing rapidly you are just not interested.
But what I am going to do is make it my mission for the day to find a way of installing your software and successfully running on linux one way or another, even if I have to manually install it into wine as your install breaks. So the fun begins.
and this:
The fact you believe this just makes you a fool. A professional doesn't have to play around with linux, a true professional would know how to install almost all linux distributions on any machine and not need to keep changing distro's hoping for the best. Honestly, just because you have installed a few distros this does not make you a professional at all. A true business man does business but as an acting CEO and CTO of an international multi million pound company, I can tell you now your talking out of your rear.
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Leo Mikaelson got a reaction from msdobrescu in Affinity products for Linux
He was barely insulting you by saying you troll the thread, you do.
You have made your point, we know at the moment serif will not be releasing products for Linux but what is your purpose here other than try to prevent there ever being a possibility? You say that a linux user who says your trolling is insulting you but you say Linux cannot be used by professions, has an average user base of 10 and often refer to linux users being geeks.
I honestly do not know the purpose of this thread whilst you are here constantly slating the linux community with your opinions. Is it for your post count or just egotistical?
Anyway, if you do not wish for serif to produce products for linux, great for you and we clearly know that is where you sit. So why not give the linux professionals to actually have their say.
Have a great day x
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Leo Mikaelson got a reaction from msdobrescu in Affinity products for Linux
Well I literally just registered on this forum after reading some of the views of what Linux is used for (web browsing lol) and also how it is run on second hand computers (again lol) and how there is no-one to support linux machines (again again lol) and also how your company believes that linux is a budget option ...omg!
Do you know how many professional businesses use linux? Military Groups? Public services?
Do you also realise that the majority of linux users (which you seem to call nerds..rude!) are far more technically minded than most of the users on other OS's.
Why not go out and buy a PC? You say. A PC is a personal computer which can have whatever OS you choose to have on it actually... so as a debian user I do have a PC.
Second hand computers run linux? This just makes me cringe! My laptop which I run a customised debian distro has a intel i7 3k CPU, 16GB DDR4, 2GB Dedicated Graphics, 1TB SSD (running /home), 128gb m.Sata (running the OS) along with a 2 Wifi Cards, a 4g sim Module and another 256GB USB 3.0 for addition storage. Not all linux users run rasberian/mint or ubuntu.
I researched your software hoping that finally there would be some software company out there making a decent photo editing suite for linux and stumbled upon this nonsense.
Instead of trying to compete with photoshop (which you do seem to do a good job at doing btw) on windows and mac operating systems why not actually create something that has no competition and would be appreciated by a group of computer enthusiast. You mention support but us linux users support each other so actually it wouldn't really need much support lets be real.
Anyway clearly at the moment, even though points have been made and even though the linux communities are growing rapidly you are just not interested.
But what I am going to do is make it my mission for the day to find a way of installing your software and successfully running on linux one way or another, even if I have to manually install it into wine as your install breaks. So the fun begins.
and this:
The fact you believe this just makes you a fool. A professional doesn't have to play around with linux, a true professional would know how to install almost all linux distributions on any machine and not need to keep changing distro's hoping for the best. Honestly, just because you have installed a few distros this does not make you a professional at all. A true business man does business but as an acting CEO and CTO of an international multi million pound company, I can tell you now your talking out of your rear.
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Leo Mikaelson reacted to Ruslik in Affinity products for Linux
Well, personally I'm all hands for deep understanding and continuous learning, but we have to be real here. I's not possible to know everything about everything. It's like developers don't have to know to much about psychology of colours, visual hierarchy, golden ratio, grid systems etc. when his position is database engineer, its good for him to know about this things, but it is not required for doing his job. The same stuff applies to designer positions, employers don't require deep architectural knowledge from someone who has different area of expertise. Division of labor, my man.
Anyways it's got way off topic. It was pleasure to chat with you guys.
Serif team, keep rocking. Hope to see your beautiful software on Linux some day.
Cheers.
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Leo Mikaelson reacted to v_kyr in Affinity products for Linux
Linux website design or UI design progs? Google Web Designer, ForeUI, Edraw, Pencil ... and so on. - Though honestly the best in this regard for website design is still handcoded stuff and thus finally a good and capable text editor and build system for this, as far as you are familiar with the tools and used frameworks.
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Leo Mikaelson reacted to tonyrh in Affinity products for Linux
It's pretty clear you don't know what Wine is. Or Unix for that matter. Or how FOSS development works. I'm afraid you could not even define what an operating system is actually...
Also, how do you know what Serif would be happy to do or do not? Do you work for them or just spend a lot of time trolling using the forum?
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Leo Mikaelson reacted to foxie in Affinity products for Linux
Just want to add my 2 cents.
I've been using linux for at least 10 years. I can't recall any moment where I would end up with any kind of "complex" problem in recent years. There used to be issues 10 years ago, but linux desktop have come a long way. Today, most of hardware is supported out of box and the probability of having the wrong one is really low. More than that I have an experience of buying a ssd that didn't work in macOS, but did in linux on the same macbook pro. These things about non working hardware and problematic setup are more of a myth nowadays.
Another myth is non paying linux user. I have more than 200 games on steam. No, it's not just indie games, but mostly AAA titles. I have macbook pro and want to buy another one. I have 2 legal copies of Win 10 Pro in my main desktop (one is just for games and the other is unused as I cba rebooting only for PS). It's not about not having money for windows lol. It's about workflow and tools. I'm stuck with using Photoshop and Illustrator CC in wine (same on mac for now). My SO is in simillar situation (except on windows as she's not developer, but designer only).
I'd like to escape from adobe and find a suitable solution. Affinity package seems to be the one. They don't have to support every distribution, one is pretty sufficient. When they release ubuntu version, every other distro can repack it. Or even easier approach is to release an appimage which is supported by every distribution I believe. That would prevent getting into dependency hell. Web developers and designers would appreciate such tool. We want to pay and we will pay if there's an opportunity.
Or you could make it easy to run in wine if there's no other option. I know it's hard, but comon if the PS can run pretty solid why Affinity wouldn't.
I want to buy your apps (and probably will anyway), but (at least) I want you to know that I want them on linux.
