DDNN
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14 minutes ago, Twolane said:
So, basically, this: Affinity, please turn over your code to us Linux wheeler-dealers so we can port it and have everyone humpty-dumpty all over again. Yeah, that should work out pretty good for Affinity, I'd say. Heck of a deal, Jim - or whoever that guy was. My memory fails.
Those are your words and your interpretation of what's been said so far:
Two links:Proprietary DAWs on Linux:
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/List_of_proprietary_software_for_Linux#Digital_audio_workstationsProprietary 3D apps on Linux:
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/List_of_proprietary_software_for_Linux#3D_graphics
Are these companies drowning to your knowledge?
The two largest creative software giants are in list two. Though I suspect Adobe has since removed Linux support after acquiring Substance. I could be wrong.
But alas, since misinterpretation and bias is the king of this discourse, let me remove myself from it.
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4 hours ago, deeds said:
Er, no. It was in reference to:
Proprietary systems are hindrances to development on a whole because it's mostly done for selfish reasons rather than "It won't work the way I want it to unless I create something new." OR "This new thing makes everything better, but it can only be used with our 'optimized products".
Again though, that's a whole other topic. A far larger one.Let me quote myself. You were the one who chose to stray.
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11 minutes ago, deeds said:
Attempt to distract, diffract, or otherwise dissuade with semantics built on straw men all you like. People like this fella tend to know what that means about you.
What?! 🤨
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3 hours ago, deeds said:
As designers, we've taken it upon ourselves to see the world both as it is and how it could be.
I think you're blending the two, internally, which is causing idealogical bents to vent.
When people use the words ideological or realistic, they tend to mean improbable or impossible. I'm not saying that's what you meant or even that you are of that mindset, but I feel those words are now cliches.
Does human life not already have perfections scattered throughout? Your favourite coffee or meal. Your favourite person. Your favourite vehicle.
It is absolutely necessary to blend the two.
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4 hours ago, deeds said:
is this about governments waiving public & private liabilities of therapeutic products for themselves and pharmaceutical companies?
Er, no. It was in reference to:
12 hours ago, DDNN said:Apple was forced to use a universal port. The world of personal digital devices will be better for it.
Proprietary systems are hindrances to development on a whole because it's mostly done for selfish reasons rather than "It won't work the way I want it to unless I create something new." OR "This new thing makes everything better, but it can only be used with our 'optimized products".
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1 hour ago, deeds said:
Interesting that you think the relative lack of creative users willing to pay for creative software, on Linux, is a negative thing.
How do you plan to address this in a way that would provide both sufficient recompense and incentive for a company like Affinity to spend the millions of dollars in man hours (and even more in opportunity cost) to convert their software to the many fragmented versions of Linux?
Linux now has three universal file formats for apps: Flatpaks, Snaps, and Appimages.
They work on pretty much every distribution of the Linux, with Flatpaks being the most likely to be used by larger companies.Hence, they (software companies) don't have to think about any individual distributions.
Furthermore, there are many people who would switch to Linux but don't because the very same companies don't make apps for the platform. I use Linux as my daily driver but will sometimes boot into Windoze when I have a specific software need that cannot be fully satisfied on Linux. For instance, some of my previous design files and assets are in .afdesign or .afphoto formats, and as such, I have no choice but to boot up Windoze.This brings up another issue of proprietary file formats and incompatibility, but we're not getting into that. <-- However, just think about how Apple was forced to use a universal port. The world of personal digital devices will be better for it.
Hello .odt .ora .html .svg .obj 👋
All this to say: as much as you think that Linux users and the potential profit is next to nothing, it isn't helped by both potential full-time Linux users and hesitant software companies not being willing to take the first true step.It'd be nice if people and companies didn't need to be forced to do the right thing and just did so off their own volition.
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16 hours ago, deeds said:
Linux users could start a poll, somewhere out in the wider web, to reveal how many of them are willing to pay for software, and which specific software, too.
That's about the only way they're going to convince anyone not otherwise religiously devoted to its anachronisms to support it through self funded, risky endeavour at their own opportunity cost.
I always get the feeling that Linux users are less likely to want to pay for software things than even Windows users. Which is really saying something. And this kind of polling might reveal that to be true, and that creative software is quite low on the average Linux user's wish lists for things they'd pay for, which might also be the reason this kind of polling isn't done.
But that's all conjecture.
Remind me, how does Blender make a profit?
I send money to the software developers for Blender, Krita, and NovelWriter on a monthly basis, as well as three creatives (one writer, one artist, and a Youtuber). And I hate the idea of subscriptions.
So... Say again? 🧐
The majority of Linux users don't leave Windows or Mac to avoid paying for software. They leave it because they can't afford to buy a new computer when their Windows PC starts running slowly and they learn about Linux's minimum resource usage. They leave for privacy and/or security. They leave because they think customizing a desktop without having to hack it is cool. And so many other reasons.
Anyway, please stop spouting your negative ideas about Linux users and stick to the actual facts. -
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3 hours ago, Wanesty said:
Going/being open-source is a risky bet and a lot of open source projects end up abandoned because of the financial aspect, (as a lot of proprietary software).
I'm not asking serif to go open-source, honestly i don't care about it being proprietary* as long as the development is attentive enough to community/customers feedback.
However I've cited unreal engine 5 going open-source while it not at all being an issue profitability wise : open-source ≠ gratis.
*I personally prefer open-source by a moral standpoint ; i want to be able to look inside the pie before eating it if i feel like it, and maybe add salt without having to ask the chef.
But as i said at the very beginning, serif is a company, i understand money.Yeah, I get that. If I was strict on open-source tools I wouldn't be on this forum in the first place, but there are few companies that are fully proprietary that actually listen to their user-base, like Milanote (alternative to OneNote). They actually have a voting system for what users want alongside things they would like to add.
Here's what I mean:
https://poll.milanote.com/tabs/2-planned -
I feel like this guy just likes to argue, which is sad.
If users want/need the standard .exe or .msi files, that's their choice. Most users would not have expected to get this new format. And some users like the freedom to install the apps to wherever they choose. Also their choice.
Respect it.
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Blender may have taken years to get where it is today, but look at how much it's improved in just the last 5.
Now, imagine if a corporation like Serif were to actually take suggestions from their community more seriously (not saying they have to be open source).And like Wanesty said, open source is really not a bad idea. The community-driven development team could be exactly what's needed to take another financial chunk out of the creative software market. But, I'm no developer and Blender, Krita, and Wordpress are my only references.
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On 10/18/2022 at 12:03 PM, Pšenda said:
Regarding this: Flatpaks, Snaps, and the universal AppImages now exist, so they no longer have to consider a particular Linux distribution (OS) - just Linux in general.
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On 11/30/2022 at 10:56 AM, kenmcd said:
There are plenty of free privacy tools to lock down Win10 and Win11.
When I went from Win7 to Win10 it took a little time to get educated and block it all.
And there are free applications (and commercial) to get back a normal Start Menu.
Install Win10 in a VM and test it. Lock it down. Make work how you want it to.
I use Win10 daily, but I also have two Win11 VMs for testing. One is wide open, the other is locked down tight.
The Win10 minimum requirement is about features and performance. That requires things which are not in Win7.
Just wanted to say that the fact that users need to go through all that IS the problem. Privacy features being turned on and advertising or data mining features turned off should be the default on all systems, services, etc.
But people will say "It's normal, so don't fight it.", like the GDPR doesn't exist. "Normal" doesn't equate to ethically/morally correct.
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Wow, wow, wow... It is a lucky thing I had chosen to wait before purchasing. I did notice this new .MISX format but I didn't realise just how workflow-impeding it would be when working with other apps. Some of us really do need to have a .EXE or .MSI installer, myself included.
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On 12/24/2022 at 3:36 AM, Komatös said:
I don't understand this discussion since the beginning, why do you need, unless you don't have enough space on the system HDD/ssd, to store the programs on another HDD/SSD? This makes no sense at all!
Because if Windows has to be reinstalled, most programs have to be reinstalled as well, there the mouse doesn't bite off a thread.With macOS, iOS and Linux you also have no choice! There the paths are predetermined! And with macOS and iOS programs also run in an isolated layer, which is nothing other than the sandbox at MS.
Hi @Komatös. I have a slightly unrelated question for you: which web browser do you use? (if you don't mind answering)
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7 hours ago, PaoloT said:
Statistics based on very small groups, represented by developers or VFX artists, are not very relevant, if thinking to the general target of the Affinity Suite. A slightly more significative statistic, that of desktop OSs used to browse the web, say that Linux is a little more than 1% of the total (compared to the 16% of the Mac). A group of users browsing the web is likely more easy to overlap to a group of users making illustration at some degree.
Paolo
Before I start, let me say that this is not a rant, though it may be interpreted that way. lol. Sorry if it "sounds" that way.
I'm a Linux user here and I hate having to boot Windows to use my Affinity purchases. Yes, at the time of purchase I knew full well that there is no current Linux support, but that doesn't mean that it should never be considered.
Your argument seems to assume that regular people use sophisticated apps like these all the time - they don't.Regular people just go to their regular jobs and use the preinstalled browser that comes with their regular operation system; which is also usually preinstalled (Windows).
Let me be the first to mention BLENDER. Do you remember that 3D package that came into an industry dominated by other 3D apps that the majority of 3D creatives use? Now, everyone [even non-creatives] is either using or considering it, and guess what? - Full Linux support. The only popular OSes that Blender doesn't fully support [yet] are mobile OSes (iOS and Android-based).
The target market of almost every creative application is NOT regular people. It's creatives and creatives think outside the box - that's why Linux, Blender, Firefox, etc. exist.
That being said, I understand the idea that the cost to port Affinity apps vs the return on investment is a long-term plan they may not be willing to make. But, I'd also say the fact that all of Microsoft's good operating system ideas since Win 7 have come from studying Linux desktop environments (particularly the visual aspects). That says something, to me at least. -
On 12/24/2019 at 4:32 AM, GarryP said:
There have already been requests to add an “Open Recent Document” section to the Welcome screen which would show a thumbnail image of the last few – number to be decided – documents, each of which could be clicked on to open it.
Hey guys. Seems I didn't have email notifications turned on.
As far as "Open Recent..." is concerned, I had thought about adding a button similar to what you described but I opted not to use anymore time mocking up an example of this because... well, I just didn't feel like doing it.
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Just a simple VU and addition of an "Open" button.
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3 minutes ago, MikeW said:
Because do realize that a lifetime license is for your lifetime only if it is shorter than theirs.
LOL... Yes and no though. - If I die, someone else (that got my permission) will get access to all my email accounts, and if they use the things that I use, well they can continue to use things like Affinity software.
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Good point. And just to clarify, It's not that I can't afford it, I just don't want spend anymore money on something that I've already purchased. It's not like it's a car or house.
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Why is it only Pixologic that gives free upgrades for life? Meaning from the big players in the Digital Art & Design Software Industry.
My main reason for purchasing Photo and Designer was not having to pay a company (with millions of customers) over and over. If only GIMP and Inkscape were just a little more user-friendly (by a little I mean A LOT)... Sigh
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So, I just got the email about the Publisher Beta coming to an end soon and the generous 30% discount I can take advantage of, but I need some clarity. - Are Affinity products giving free updates for life (as in "Life of the product" and all future versions) or free updates until the next major release (as in free updates for version 1.X.X.XXX but not for version 2.X.X.XXX)?
I raise this question because your email about Affinity Publisher seems to be the latter.
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I voted "no" as I currently use XnView MP to view and organise my files. It has built in support / thumbnail support for almost any file you can think of (including Affinity files) and I have been using it for years. ALSO, it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE. The only way I'd use another tool / DAM / Asset Manager / Media Organiser is if it's, at the veryleast, free. I would not pay an extra $1 for something that I already have.
Yes, there may be ways of integrating such an app into an Affiniy main application but XnView works just fine for me.
If you've never heard of XnView MP, you can find it here: https://www.xnview.com/
PS: IMHO
Linux user base keep growing !
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