Maarten Langeveld

Dear developers, Soft proofing sRGB is essential when publishing on the web. Affinity Photo fails to soft proof sRGB (other colour profiles do work). Why are you completely ignorant and silent. At least you could admit it is not working as it should... Kind regards, Maarten

I posted an example (twice!) Have you looked at it ?

Hello developers, Affinity Photo is a great product but regrettably soft proofing AdobeRGB images to sRGB gamut is not working on Affinity Photo for Windows 1.10.5.1342. Adding the soft proof adjustment layer with sRGB profile to an Adobe layer that contains colours that are out of sRGB gamut, nothing happens... As opposed to for example selecting Agfa: Swop Standard profile. See attached document. Would you please fix this in next release? Kind regards, Maarten Affinity Photo for Windows1.10.5.1342 soft proof adjustment sRGB not working.afphoto

Would appreciate an answer by Affinity devs, can you reproduce?

Hello developers. Softproofing an AdobeRGB image to sRGB is still not working. Although the Gamut check in the softproof adjustment layer clearly indicates the out of gamut area's, the screen colours in those area's remain the same. Example file added. Affinity Photo softproof sRGB not working.afphoto

See above. You are complete right. My apologies. I could not reproduce my claim about export function.

Have some profound an issues with Affinity Photo's soft proofing implementation colour management implementation. One Two major main draw backs that makes Affinty Photo almost useless to me (sorry to say) : 1. While working with wide gamut colour spaces it is not possible to export the work in another colour space since the export function does not convert the colours to the designated colour space but only replaces the colour profile (what's the use???). This is very very cumbersome. When I want to keep wide gamut in my project file and export my work in - for example - sRGB colour space for web publishing, I now have to make a copy of the original project, save it, convert it to sRGB colour space, export (and then delete the converted project to save disk space). It is crazy. My apologies I did something wrong since I could not reproduce. From the help pages: "By default, this is set to the ICC profile of the project (document). However, the project's ICC profile can be overwritten for this export area. Select from the pop-up menu." Suggestion for the help pages (Export Settings, Multi-format settings, ICC profile): "By default, this is set to the ICC profile of the project (document). However, the export can be converted to a colour space of choice. Select from the pop-up menu." 2. Soft proofing wide Gamut images (i.e. AdobeRGB) with sRGB colour profile does not work either (it does work well with other colour spaces such as print colour spaces but it does certainly not with sRGB colour space: all the out of sRGB gamma colours are still clearly visible, in fact nothting changes). Moreover my (fast) PC (Intel i8700) often slows down and becomes very sluggish (to unacceptable levels) or just crashes when soft proofing. I have been fairly enthuisastic about Affinity Photo but it crashes or slows down too often (also with small projects with only a few layers) when soft proofing and the basics (colour management) is very poorly implemented (as mentioned above).

Apologies, I could not reproduce. My fault. I'm having the same issues but I think it is not a v2/v4 ICC issue... The cause is probably that when exporting an image in Affiny Photo with another colour profile, the colours aren't converted to the new profie but only the original colour profile is replaced by the newly chosen colour profile. That explains the weird behaviour. From the help pages: "By default, this is set to the ICC profile of the project (document). However, the project's ICC profile can be overwritten for this export area. Select from the pop-up menu." I still cannot believe this is true since it makes the export function rather useless to me since I want to keep wide gamut in my working file and just export to for example sRGB for web publishing. Now I have to make a copy of the original work, save it, convert it to sRGB colour space, export (and then delete the converted work to save disk space). It is really unbelievable. Also soft proofing wide Gamut images (i.e. AdobeRGB) with sRGB colour profile does not work either (it does work well with other colour spaces but not with sRGB, out of sRGB gamma colours are still clearly visible, in fact nothting changes). Moreover my (very fast) PC crash often slows down to unacceptable levels or just crashes when soft proofing. I have been fairly enthuisastic about Affinity Photo but it crashes too often, the basics (colour management) are not well implemented (as mentioned above: exporting to another colour space is not possible, soft proofing wide gamut images for SRGB display does NOT work etc.).

With even number of images the median should be calculated as the mean of the two middle observations, which Affinity apparently does not. Curious how Affinity calculates the median when even number of images is stacked... Agree with you suggestion: next to the 'outlier' stack operator a 'remove outlier' stack operator should be more than welcome.

Loading a pair of images twice (4 images stacked : two same pairs) results in same error as with two different images. Mathematically the median should have same result as the mean which it does not with Affinity. Curious...

Interesting... Good to know it works fine using three images. Keeps me wondering what happens when two images are used... Maybe Affinity developers can clarify on this?

Stacking two photo's in Affinity Photo, I get different results between 'mean' and 'median'. Which really surprises me since with two samples the mean and median mathematically have the same outcome, while in Affinity the respective results differ a lot ! I would have expected same results in Affinity Photo. What's going (wr)on(g) ?

Thanks, Good to know ! I have calibrated my monitor using Spyder, which has created a wide gamut monitor profile for my standard monitor preset, this Spyder generated profile I have installed as default profile for my display in Windows Colour Management. But since Windows itself is not colour managed, the Windows GUI looks very over-staurated, so when doing regular tasks websurfing, e-mail etc. I switch my monitor to built-in (i.e. in the monitor itself) RGB profile. When working with Affinity I switch my monitor to (wide gamut) standard preset and like with Windows GUI, Affinity GUI looks very over-saturated. Maarten Edit: for some reason cannot reproduce over-saturated colours with Affinity. Have installed all profiles again, and now seems okay! Probably did something wrong that I have looked over. My apologies.

Hello devs, As a photo enthusiast I use a calibrated wide gamut monitor. Affinity does support colour management for the workflow but it seems, the application itself is not colour managed. Nowhere I can find the option to select the appropriate (calibrated wide gamut) colour profile for my display. For office work I use a standard sRGB profile on my monitor as default since Windows GUI is way too over-saturated when working with AdobeRGB. But for photo work I use calibrated AdobeRGB profile. Problem with Affinity is the same: when working with wide gamut colour profile for my photos the Affinity GUI is also way too over-saturated. Another wish I have is the option to export a picture with colour conversion (not just exporting with a different profile, but actually converted on the fly). I mean: when I work in a project in AdobeRGB I would like to export the result in sRGB JPEG without converting the project itself from AdobeRGB to sRGB (irreversible). Thanks, Maarten