Gregory St. Laurent
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On 7/8/2018 at 3:05 AM, Starpugs said:
Few days ago I just bought an Olympus camera and its lens.when i compare the surpported lens list in AP and Ps I found something interest:there isn’t any correction file exist in PS’s database-neither Panasonic and Olympus,but there is do a list in AP‘s database.I check this in the net and found someone said the lens-correction file was embedded in the m43 raw file.The photo would be corrected automaticaly when opened.
So I want to ask that does anyone in here know if it is true?I admit that this question should be ask in a camera forum.But I also know the official teaching video materials is from an olympus
Camera.So I think there might be someone knows the answer.
It's true all lens corrections are in-bedded in the RAW files for m43 no need for external profiles.
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I believe it is personal preference, although you work a lot more lossless in the Photo Persona. I have done it both ways and see pro's and con's to either way. I find the Shadows and Highlights work better for me in the Develop Persona.
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7 hours ago, justin b said:
Hi guys
Just wanted to ask if using software like Lightroom is necessary with Affinity Photo in order to extend its capabilities.
What can lightroom do which can give images more impact and help Affinity have more to work with or is this not a valid way of looking at this combination of workflow?
With the many filters and Add -ons I expect AP to soon be able to support will this then help to alter the relationship with 3rd party software and make AP not need pre or post editing software at all? I have read AP team are planning to release a lightroom styled equivalent . Does this mean that AP, therefore, is limited in what it can do or will another piece of software merely make image adjustments easier and more preset orientated rather than extend the users versatility to edit images?
I am new to Photo editing and more confusing than the techniques there are for dealing with images are the myriad of programs out there that all claim to extend onto main imaging editing programs like Photoshop and Affinity.
I hope my questions do not reveal my ignorance too much on this subject.
I have been using the free Faststone image viewer as a makeshift DAM that I can view photos, organize, tag and launch to Affinity Photo for editing, it has been working out surprisingly well. I'll continue to use it until Serif get around to releasing their DAM
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Thanks toltec, I'll give that a shot!
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Can anyone suggest some techniques or filters for removing Moire' on clothing in some wedding photos?
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I've watched a couple of the Panorama tutorials where James mentions "Crop to opaque" I was just wondering where that command is located, I can't seem to find it?
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Agreed, I too find this persona painfully slow but I love using it, I hope they can improve the performance in future updates.
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1 hour ago, owenr said:
LOL
That's not all you were saying, otherwise our disagreement wouldn't have persisted so long. You were repeatedly stating that DxO does not behave the way it actually does, and you also stated that AP was in need of correction.
I've posted several times in this thread that to get AP to behave in the same way as the other raw developers you've used, the Tone Curve option should be enabled in the Develop Assistant.
i understand what you are saying. But if you take a photo that is properly exposed in camera there should be "NO" need to adjust exposer in any RAW developer. But in AP you have to, and in my eyes this is not right (even when I have the Develop Assistant Tone Curve turned on!) When I shoot a wedding I shouldn't have to adjust exposer for every photo I take when I know 90% are exposed correctly! Time is money.
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6 hours ago, owenr said:
I'm not confusing posts. You are refusing to accept the fact that disabling all DxO corrections does not prevent the initial automatic toning of a raw file to produce an image that looks similar to what the camera would have output as JPEG.
I Don't really care if I'm refusing or not (no need to get personal), I don't use DxO anymore anyway. I'm using Affinity now and I am happy with it. All I'm saying is I've used at least a dozen RAW editors in the the past 10 years or so and Affinity Photo is the only one that behaves the way it does.
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9 hours ago, R C-R said:
I don't have or use the app, but from page 33 of the online DxO PhotoLab - User Guide there is this:
Make of that what you will.
All demosaicing is, is the processing of reconstructing a RAW file and overlaying CFA interpolation. Each camera manufacturer using a different file type. This doen't mean any corrections are applied.
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6 hours ago, owenr said:
I'm not confusing posts. You are refusing to accept the fact that disabling all DxO corrections does not prevent the initial automatic toning of a raw file to produce an image that looks similar to what the camera would have output as JPEG.
This post was directed to R C-R
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On 4/14/2018 at 0:04 PM, Yorkshire Lad said:
I have just purchased both Designer and Photo, KUDOS to the Serif team, the software is superb, and blows the competitors (Adobe) out of the water. Anyway to my question ; will the developers be considering introducing the ability to interactively scale the interface within the application? I currently run Designer and Photo on a 4K monitor and find it difficult to see at the recommended Windows 10 resolution. I also use Blender as my preferred 3D application, which does offer this functionality. Of course it is possible to alter the scaling system wide, but this then renders the UI of other apps to big. Thanks
I am curious as to what problem you are having? I run AP at 4K and find that it scales correctly, no problems that I can see?
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On 4/7/2018 at 7:14 PM, R C-R said:
At least in the screenshot you provided, DxO Smart Lighting is applied, using the "Slight" preset. In effect, this will adaptively change the exposure in different parts of the photo.
"NO" Corrections were applied to the DXO screenshot that I posted, smart lighting was turned off and any preset corrections on load were also turned off. I think you are confusing my post with someone elses?
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On 4/14/2018 at 11:24 AM, owenr said:
I have DxO PhotoLab Elite 1.1.2 - the current version.
You can set the app to apply no user adjustments (known as corrections in DxO) on loading a raw file or RGB image, but you cannot disable the initial automatic toning that is applied to a raw file before the user adjustments.
In AP, the equivalent behaviour to DxO with no corrections is achieved by enabling Tone Curve in the Develop Assistant.
Yes you can! What leads you to believe that corrections are being made when these are turned off? I've been using DXO for a few years and after discussions with other people on other forums the consensus was that this is the setup that loads a RAW file with totally no corrections applied.
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7 hours ago, owenr said:
You can disable the corrections but these are additional to the initial automatic toning which you are not disabling.
Under settings you can disable any adjustments (even automatic toning as you call it) on load
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1 hour ago, owenr said:
DxO is doing tonal processing that's similar to what a camera does when set to produce a JPEG, and it possibly cannot be disabled by the user.You have disabled the auto tone curve of AP Develop, so a flat image is presented. If you enable the auto tone curve, then you'll get a result more similar to that of DxO
Both apps allow you to modify an additional tone curve.
Screenshots of AP and RawTherapee, both with no exposure adjustment, tone curve or noise reduction:
Now with a +3.0 exposure in both apps to better reveal the noise:
You can disable all corrections in DXO as I have done several experiments in both AP and DXO with identical RAW files and AP is still at least 1 to 3 stops darker than DXO. Exposure values should be displayed correctly out of camera regardless of which software is used.
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I've also discussed this in several other posts, I love Affinity Photo and do wish they can correct this.
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I still don't understand why Affinity Photo's RAW engine alters the exposure? I can see it being neutral on color, contrast and sharpening but the RAW file should reflect the exposure how it was taken, because that is a direct correlation of lens aperture and shutter speed? All my RAW files show under exposed when I know they are correctly exposed?
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4 hours ago, John Rostron said:
Yes,, I would agree that is a bug. I have never had such problems with my sony .awr files, so it may be specific to certain camera raw files.
The bug seems to be that AP ignores any default presets for raw files in anything but the Develop Persona. It ignores them when creating stacks, merges and in batch processing.
@andre.lang, @owenr, I would suggest that you report this problem in either the Bug reports or Feature Requests, whatever you deem appropriate. I would also specify the camera models that are giving you problems.
John
I have been talking about this issue for a while now. It has gotten a little better in the latest version in my opinion, but is still not accurately displaying the true exposure levels.
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6 minutes ago, BrentB said:
I have the same issue. When I open RAW files in Lightroom, Adobe RAW, or even Preview on my Mac, the image nearly matches the corresponding .jpg pair in terms of exposure. These are file pairs from three different cameras (Nikon, Canon, Sony). When I open them in Affinity Photo, the difference is remarkable - even with the Tone Curve applied in Develop, they're still very dark and appear markedly underexposed. And flat. Really, really flat. The only way I can get them close is by using Apple RAW instead of Serif and still using the Tone Curve - even then, they're still not that close.
I have no idea what, if anything, Lightroom, Adobe RAW, and Preview are doing to the RAW image - but most of my RAW files look awful when opened in AP using the default (Serif) engine and it's odd this might be the way it's supposed to be working - even with the Tone Curve "preset." Everyone else I know who has used Affinity Photo shared similar concerns. I see others on the forum have noticed the same issue having come from a variety of other image editing products.
I have never heard anything like what R C-R said about Lightroom applying a preset. I can't find anything when searching to back that up either, nor can I find evidence of it in my current version of Lightroom when opening RAW files taken with the Canon we have here at work. Not saying it's not possible, just that I've not heard of that.
I guess the bottom line is if RAW files don't look underexposed and flat with other image editing products, it seems odd that they would in Affinity Photo (and more odd that this would be done intentionally).
I agree this is an issue that still plagues the current version. The newest update does seem a little better but it's still frustrating that all my raws are showing very underexposed when I know they are not!
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On 2/17/2018 at 9:09 AM, wmskaggs said:
Has anyone been able to use the Portrait Pro Studio s17 plugin with Affinity Photo. Apparently version PPS 15 works but I'm having problems with version 17. If anyone has been able to do this, please post the steps you used to get it to work.
Thanks,
Martin
I've always been able to run Portrait Pro v17 as a Plugin from Affinity Photo with no problems. I'm running Windows 10 and I manually typed in the path from within AP versus running the plugin installer from Portrait Pro if that is any help?
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3 hours ago, R C-R said:
I don't doubt that, but some of the default settings/presets all these apps use to develop an image (because "out of camera" there is no image until it is developed) seem to blow out a lot of highlights. I am just guessing but I would think that would be problematic for wedding photography (white wedding dresses & dark tuxedos & such), so maybe the real issue is how to quickly find the ones that need more tweaking to avoid sacrificing the greater latitude shooting RAW enables?
I am not sure what the best way to do that might be but I suspect Affinity Photo is not the app best suited for that part of your workflow.
I do find highlights easily get blown out with all the whites in a wedding shoot but a quick slide of the highlights remedies that instantly without having to set everything else. That is the beauty of using RAW files and with the new release Ver. 1.6.3.103 the RAW developer is behaving much better. I'm not getting the totally flat dark images anymore out of the Develop Persona.
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11 hours ago, R C-R said:
But if @h_d is right in his guess about what Iridient does (which of course may or may not be true), that would mean this baseline would be about the same as if AP was using the same settings that the camera would use if the photo was shot in the JPEG format to begin with. That probably would save time but I am not sure it would really be a good starting point.
I shoot in RAW for the ability to tweak with greater latitude than a JPEG would provide, I'm not looking to adjust every RAW from scratch. Probably 70% of my shots are pretty much fine out of camera with little adjustments needed. On a large photo shoot such as a wedding, editing every image from scratch would put me out of business. For some reason the newest release version has fixed most of my problem with the develop persona!
Issue with Affinity Photo 1.6.7 and PortraitPro 17
in Pre-V2 Archive of Affinity on Desktop Questions (macOS and Windows)
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Yeah, it has to be a Mac problem because it runs fine for me on Windows 10