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  1. 10 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

    For example?

    When you're working on a magazine, and you just need to re-apply the master page to get back part of the objects that should be static but were modified previously for different purposes (that don't apply anymore) or by error.

    With the 2 Master pages on the same page, you'll be able to select which objects you want to keep or delete.

    In APub, we can "see" the 2 Master pages applied in the layer panel. In other apps, we can't see them, we only have original objects at the bottom + modified and unlocked ones above to sort. If we try to apply again the master page in those apps, it'll replace the locked items of the previous master page by the locked items of the new master page, keeping the unlocked and modified objects, and not linking the text.

    APub permit to apply different master pages to a page: it can be tricky for us, and it certainly is difficult to code (diffferent options and behaviors). Usually, it's more like a parent-child relation between master pages (the child inherit the parent objects, and those can be modified or deleted on the child). And only one master page applied to a page.

    With APub, we can have parent-child master pages or multiple master pages applied to another one, and multiple master pages on a page: difficult to decide if it'll be better to have the ones or the others. (And taking notes while testing is better, since I already tested it and can't remember what was better… perhaps parent-child master pages, since applying another master page on a page can erase previously applied ones, and sometimes you want to only replace one of them if there are more than one on a page.)


  2. The compound object* show which objects to add or substract to the original ring (in the same order, preferably).

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    Next, you adjust the nodes and curves:

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    * In this case, we can't use a compound as final object since we can't have different colours in a compound object.

    Now, we can either:

    • Cut to pieces the G shape and colour the parts (v2 in my file)
    • add shapes of different colours inside the G shape (v1)

    For cutting the pieces (v2):

    • I draw the shape I need
    • I select the G and this shape and I use "divide": I end up with 4 shapes (coloured now: yellow, brown, tan and pink)
    • I delete the un-needed pink one

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    …and need to divide again the bottom of the G to have the 4 final parts of the logo.

     

    Or you can use the pen to draw shapes, colour them and put them inside the G like in the v1 example of my file.

     


  3. Nice one.

    But I'm not fond of the cloud, since they are of nearly similar size, similar places, and are not really part of the logo. Are they going away on in? And since there are elements out of the main circle, why not the important part of this logo: the man skiing? For now, he's more like a detail than the main subject: skiing in the mountains.


  4. 7 hours ago, R C-R said:

    with the other Affinity apps I never expected everything to work the same way as in other apps of the same general kind. 

    Having revolutionary workflow and making errors are different.

    Using left and right pages master pages is needed because of specific margins inside/outside and bleed at the exterior of the pages. That's why those master pages can't be reversed. If someone need them the other way, they'll have to add a new master page and paste and adjust objects so margins and bleed is correct and their manufacturing manager or printer (not sure of the translation: "chef de fabrication" and "imprimeur") won't call them to ask the file to be corrected since it's not suitable for print with those beginner errors.

    We have double master pages, but they should work like this: whatever page you select to apply on a page of your document (you can/should be able to do it in a hurry), only the left page will be applied on a left page, and the right one on a right page.

    When we'll be able to have more than 2 pages on a spread, perhaps we'll need the option to select which one we want to apply, or we'll be able to drag another page at this position. In ID there are options to reorder specific spreads  in the document. It can be usefull if you need to have more than 2 pages on a spread, or when you need to begin your document with the last page (for cover using a same photo/illustration on cover 1 and 4: your document need to begin on the last left even page).

     

    Here some examples to understand why left and right pages can't be messed, but you need to be able to add a page (left tor right) if a part is longer, without messing the other ones and without needing to apply again the master pages.

    Perhaps it's difficult to understand when looking at novels, but with magazines or complexe books it's visibly more logical.

    • If there's only single main text frames and linked ones on the pages, the app should be able to keep the flow and design when adding a page (example 1).
    • If the document is too complexe or modified (adding text and images in the frames, resizing them...), each modified elements on a page will flow to the next page and all the ones that weren't modified will be replaced by the ones of the master pages (other examples).
      => We'll have to adjust manually those elements. (From memory, QXD was better to manage this than ID is, with smarter master pages).
    • If the app can't link the new text frames of the new page to the ones of the previous/next pages because they were modified too much, empty text frames of the master page will be added, we need to link them manually. It's a safe way to add pages without messing the real/already made content. For now, APub work ± like this.

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    9 hours ago, thomaso said:

    Perhaps one reason for our different views is that I have used 1 master page only (a spread of 2 pages) – whereas you possibly use 2 master pages, for left/right separately?

    That's the usual way to work, since elements can be common or cross the full spread. But the app should only apply half of the elements depending of the left/right page they are on, + the common ones (that we need to modify manually or that should be automatically cropped). Having the whole spread applied with part of it on the second page (but locked) can add errors and perhaps slow down the app.

     

    @R C-R Nice of you to test more! Since I was ready to click on "submit reply" when you posted, I'll do it since it can help understand how we use master pages instead of deleting part of my reply  :)


  5. 17 hours ago, R C-R said:

    I do not understand why this is surprising.

    I understand that you don't understand since you're not working usually with this kind of applications.

    But it's the beauty and usefullness of master pages to regulary keep on applying left master page to left pages and right master pages to right pages, moving the text frames accordingly.

    At least with pro programs as QXD and ID (I don't work/worked with other ones). And it's the core function of master pages. Or we woudln't be able to work on monthly 112 pages reviews or annual books of 200+ to 740+ pages without heart attack or pull out hair!

    This is a major bug in APub that should be adressed.

    Now, usually, I try to avoid adding 1 page only to a book, especially at the beginning, and try to add at least by 2 pages, to avoid blank pages since I usually keep first pages of chapter on the right pages. If needed I add some pages at the begining and at the end of the document (usually a total of pages multiple of 4 is needed, sometimes of 8 on huge documents, or they'll add blank pages: it's better to have content everywhere).

     

    3 hours ago, thomaso said:

    Who has more right for the shorter abbr.: AP or AfP ...? :ph34r: 

    We used to talk about AD (Affinity Designer) and AP (Affinity Photo) for long here before came APub (Affinity Publisher), so the distingo should be APub ;)


  6. Hi,

    It would be helpfull to be able to assign a shortcut to the right-click menu option "release mask", and better if we could select different objects and apply this action.

    When importing some files from other applications, we can find a lot of images that are only a coloured rectangle with a clipping path. If we only want curves and no images in our  files, we'll need, to delete those images and only keep the paths.
    For example, it can happen with text, and in this case, we need to release the paths to get back the curves, delete the coloured image and recolour the resulting curves.
    Without shortcut, it can be time consuming (it can happen to each beginning and ending character of a part of text, or different parts of an illustration exported as EPS).

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  7. 49 minutes ago, tallrob said:

    high production pros know the value of a database-driven library where you can do it once and always know where to find it when it's time to go to the next step of the project

    It's more complexe scripts and API to archive documents by pages and more, with a huge database to find authors of illustrations or articles, etc. and interface to browse and command, if you've got the rights to, the elements you want to reuse. No LR or Bridge there.


  8. You can import ABR brushes (brushes for Photoshop) in AD Bêta and AP Bêta. (A bug prevent us to do it in the non-bêta applications, but it'll be corrected soon).

    If you need then in the regular applications (bon-bêta), you'll  need to import them in a Bêta version, and export them from this app to AFBRUSHES files. You will be able to import those AFBRUSHES files in the non-bêta apps.

    There's a lot of ABR brushes for free, and you can test them. Some will behave as expected in Photoshop, some other no, since the brush engines are different. But it give a lot of options.

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