Move Along People

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Here is the test curve svg - the first curve I created. Try for yourself, there is no lying (obviously - why on Earth would there be?) and the results are the results I showed.
testcurve.svg
And what exactly is the point of you trying Affinity Designer 1.7 when we've acknowledged the problem and I clearly labelled the results I showed as being from Affinity Designer 1.8 Beta.
Many thanks for your input,
Matt

Has it occurred to any of you that some people on this forum (indeed in this thread) may be more sensitive than you? 
I think that you have summarized the problem and Serif's responses adequately, and I do not think any more attacking or defensive posts will achieve anything.
I have always defended the rights of users like Oval, Jowday and others to hold our feet to the fire in public, but there is a thin line between questioning our responses and intentions and calling us liars and implying we don't care. I think this thread is best locked now before that line is encroached on further.

Stockholm Syndrome over here. Nature is weird.

And I can assure you that Boris Johnson is actively working to resolve the Brexit issues. Feel assured now? No. Until released and confirmed working properly it is a fantasy.
Lets just let reality talk.

As I said - you deliberately used a small object which you know will go wrong. You can't claim this wasn't deliberate as it very obviously was. Showing that something you know is wrong is definitely wrong is not achieving anything in my book? It didn't help me (or anyone else already contributing to this thread) know where the problem is or show me how good CorelDraw does with something we fail at. If I wanted to, I could show you ways in which any other program can fail at certain functions - I do not as it is not helpful.

This is the last drawing I have prepared with a 2.5 hour study.
https://youtu.be/wbmRDfpI7k0
 

As someone said, you are NOT running an open source project. HOW in the world you cannot fix such a CRITICAL bug for over 1.5 years? Let's be honest, AD is nowhere near professional vector editor when such crucial tools are not working and are not being dealt with. It's hard to have sympathy for you guys even though I guess it's not developers fault but managements.

My wife wants to write in her blog website about Steve McQueen.
Problem:
All the best photos of Steve McQueen are copyright.
"No problem," I said, "I'll draw him for you..."
Out came Affinity Designer...
Problem Solved! 

It is amazing you think you can constantly add complexity and new products using so few developers without slowing everything down to a crawl. Maybe it is time to look for expertise and inputs for some features and components - algorithms and architecture fx -  outside of Nottingham (and the UK) rather than letting customers wait for 5 or 10 years or letting them work with inferior tools.
Which Country Produces The Best Programming Language Programmers & Engineers In The World?
"The part of the software for NASA operations and US Navy submarines was developed in Central and Eastern Europe (CEE). According to the survey, 59% of tech leaders feel a shortage of tech skills. This is where outsourcing steps into the game. Many companies look for the top outsourcing destinations with low-cost development center."
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When the Iron Curtain fell, Corel hired Russian developers with specialist math skills. They are indeed rare. Experts are experts and they live where they live. And that is where you hire them. When you don't have them, and I don't think you have, features like expand stroke and boolean operations fall behind the competition. Or simply don't work. You have so many reports from customers about such problems here. "We are not perfect" and "Designer is not perfect" is not an excuse you can hide behind as a company. Or use honestly. And it is not enough to build a solid framework from scratch.
We have some developers (app specialists) sitting in the team two days a week. They fly in from another part of the country. They coordinate the sprint and analyze tasks and stories with the team - then travel back to develop their part. From time to time other specialists from the Netherlands and US do the same for very specific tasks. Very often for a short time-span. Sometimes they can deliver from far away. Optimize or make recommendations. It doesn't cost us a fortune. But it is necessary. Totally. We can't hire or find these guys and dolls locally. Or in this country.
It is 25 years ago Serif released DrawPlus. With 25 years of in-house experience in vector software I would expect some pretty solid and MATURE vector algorithms in the Affinity Range from battle hardened developers and specialists. But designer has almost no complex vector features and expand stroke was reported faulty in 2014 and was only moderately improved since then. Why not seek help?
If you can't fix simple basic tools like boolean operations or expand stroke for years and years I find it hard to believe you can implement perspective tools and other more complex features at all. You need help. Or to prove us wrong before we die of old age.
BTW: Customers bite their tongue too. Quite an experience, isn't it? Bear with us while we bear with you. Or spread the word about the state of things to true professionals.

I keep biting my tongue and trying not to get involved with all of these discussions that quickly become name-calling. It's disappointing to read and unnecessary. I suspect I shouldn't even be typing this (it's one of the reasons you don't see me as much on the forums nowadays) but I just wanted to stop this thread degenerating further by stating that I have been typing the new code for this feature for the last couple of weeks: It isn't something that is being left unaddressed, its omission is not some "petty revenge" as stated earlier (which is truly a rather paranoid, unsettling notion to try to get my head around why someone would even think that?) Please can we just all be nice to each other? It doesn't take much, and it frequently takes less time than bashing a keyboard to try to upset someone else or lash out to feel better. We're all after the same thing at the end of the day and we'll get there quicker without wasting so much time trying to say how "disgusted" we are at the job the software developers do: We're actual real people and we're doing our best with what we have - end of story. We try very hard indeed (we have many hundreds less developers than Adobe) and some things will take us longer to work out, but we actually do care an awful lot about what we do and we want it to be something we're proud of. If we're taking too long for you then I genuinely am sorry, but what more can I say or do - I'm doing the best I can
Before someone suggests throwing more developers at the problem is a good way of fixing things we've nearly always found exactly the opposite - they need to be the right developers, and they're very hard to find - if you get the wrong ones then you spend time training them up only to find that the user experience of what they create wasn't as good as you'd want anyway, so have to do the work again so that's even more time lost.
Like everything in life, Designer isn't perfect, I'm not deluded enough to think it is, in fact I'm usually the first to point out its failings when I meet people, but I genuinely am proud of it because despite its failings, it is also a genuinely powerful creative tool that is more fun and productive to use than the competition for a very good range of tasks. So no, I'm not going to feel "disgusted" with myself or my colleagues and nor should anyone try to suggest that we should. Yes, there are things wrong that we've already said are wrong and we are fixing them. Please let this be an end to the name-calling and disparaging.

So guess what, just like last time I am not the only one complaining about things. Apparently this has been for at least 1.5 years. At this point I will just assume this will most likely never be a professional vector editor and keep exposing this utter disgusting job of software development to others.

I really want to give this software a chance. I really do. But every single time I sit down and try to do some actual work, I get introduced to some ridiculous bug. Affinity Doodle 2019 <3
2019-08-26 15-26-56.mp4

It has been 4 years, still no tool. But don't worry, it's on the roadmap and Affinity has got it under control! I haven't seen fanboy base cucked so hard...
Just use InkScape, it's free and it has Envelope Distort. It can also expand strokes precisely.

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Just use InkScape if you want to save money. They will never fix it. After 4 years there is still no Envelope Distort tool which is crucial to certain types of designs. The Undo/Redo system is completely unusable and you get THIS piece of rotten cherry on top. It's just absolutely disgusting.

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Thanks for the workaround, here is the post I was referring to.
 
"Affinity Designer is full of tools meticulously developed for achieving high productivity, while maintaining 100 percent accurate geometry."
"Affinity - the fastest, smoothest, most precise professional creative software."
Nobody else has a problem with sort of marketing? It's clearly not true, granted it only costs ~$50 and the second quote is a bit broad but
1. The lack of communication
2. The lack of progress
3. Misleading claims
is definitely concerning.

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If I was looking for general information about any of the following subjects (among others), why should I have to search through multiple sub forums to do that?
Move Tool View Tool Zoom Tool Node Tool Pen Tool Any of the 19 shape tools Frame Text Tool Artistic Text Tool Color Picker Tool Customizing the Tools panel Snapping Layer types Layers Studio panel Color Studio panel Swatches Studio panel History Studio panel Transform Studio panel Navigator Studio panel Snapshot Studio panel Showing or hiding Studio panels Reorganizing, grouping, or floating Studio panels Glyphs Browser, Character, Paragraph, Typography, or Text Style panels Insertion options Defaults options Assistant Manager options Guides Manager options Grid and Axis Manager options Customizing the Toolbar (Mac) Separated vs normal Window view mode Geometry (Boolean) operations Using two or more Affinity apps together Color spaces & ICC profiles Supported file formats Cross platform compatibility Keyboard shortcut, light vs. dark UI, & most of the other app preferences Purchasing decisions (hardware or app) Licensing Installation or update issues The bottom line is that while there are some topics that are relevant only to one app (or to one platform or to purchases from one store) most are not.

We're super excited about this! Check out this interview we did with Affinity about our journey with our children's picture books and preschool website over on Affinity spotlight, hopefully it will provide you with some inspiration!
Affinity Spotlight - My Strawberry Monkey
 

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