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Hi I think picture/other frames which are to be anchored inline and flow with text should be made a little more intuitive. The following video highlights the issues (typed in the video) image frames.mp4

Hi I'm struggling to understand the correct way of using Publisher. I realise Publisher has it's own model for the user to understand - eg text frames are items on the layer structure, and the hierarchy there has meaning ... all good stuff. I previously posted having trouble with getting embedded content (images) to behave in a very common way - to flow with the text, and for the text to flow around them. That was a big discussion and it is still not intuitive. Anyway - this question is about the best / correct AP way of working - how do I structure a book so that: section pages have a different design to normal pages which follow a master page design section pages have a large sized text and an image - both of which, together are centred on the page there can be several chapters in a section chapter heading have a large font style, as do subheadings within chapters which have a smaller font size than the chapter headings (see image attached) Styles Now the wrong way would be to "press enter lots of times and use centre alignment" .. we know that's not how you allow for reflowable text and also misses out on the power of styles. So let me think aloud about styles. Yes the chapter heading and the subheadings can have styles defining the font size and typeface. Great. I can apply things like spacing after each of these headings in the style to create extra space to the subsequent body text. Good stuff! The styles themselves are based on the already configured Heading1/2 etc and not what I did before which was to create a new style based on "Body". Is this good / bad? In fact previously I even created a new body style based on "Body" to keep it separate - is this a good idea or not? Section / Part Dividers Onto the Section divider pages. Others call these Parts elsewhere. They contain Chapters. These should always be on the right hand odd-numbered pages. What's the best way to do this? Should they be based on a different master page? In which case does the text importing have to be done per-section? How do you best align the "section title and image" to the centre of the page? Currently I'm using a new text frame which is not a master page frame to contain the text, and them anchoring an image below it and then adjusting the height of the text frame so the content looks about right. This is very wrong and I want to know how I should really do it. Image / Frame Anchoring Problems Again I'm still struggling with image placement. Images or Picture frames should be able to be treated like a character and flow with text. Every time I create one it has text flowing under it.. I've been told NOT to use the Text Wrap options previously. I will assert that the default for a new frame should not have text flowing under it .. it creates work to give it the intuitive behaviour. The frames are placed not where expected .. only the "float with anchor" option seems to make them be placed intuitively. Previously members suggested I use careful copy and paste to first create a frame them paste it where the text cursor was. This seems wrong. (attached is a video of me trying to insert image context that flows with the text .. you can see that we eventually get there but it's not intuitive and I think I'm still doing it wrong with the cut-n-paste hack) .. So - this is all sounds like I really haven't understood the core model of AP. .. Tutorial Video? It would be great if perhaps there was a tutorial video put up to show how to correctly structure a book - covering eg the correct use of styles section/part dividers with different designs to normal content pages reflowable images anchored inline as text (sorry, really struggling) I have over the years used things like InDesign, Scribus, Latex, .. so I'm not averse to new models but something about PS - why does the default text have no style at all .. shouldn't it have the Body or Base styles applied at minimum? image frames.mp4

tried those options in several combinations and sadly didn't fix it

@Chris B slight aside but you'll notice the performance is terrible (latency and poor sample rate when painting) - any suggestions on what might be causing it .. ? it doesn't happen on my MacBook Air but does on my 15" MacBook Pro 2015

thanks @Chris B I've found the steps to reproduce it open photo, with tools/bars/tabs normal TAB toggles then on/off edit a doc - eg brush on canvas quit (cmd-Q) when in full screen mode open Photos again and this time there are no toolbars and tab toggle fails video attached - TAB is first shown to work, then failing at 30-36 seconds.. ph.mp4

@thomaso thanks ill give that a try

@thomaso thanks I will try what you suggested from a blank new document

just a another thing I've found copying and pasting that image frame doesn't work!! I have to add some temporary text before and after the Image Frame and the copy the text sandwiching the Image Frame ad then paste that for the centring paragraph style to work... eek!

thanks for helping - that worked my comment that this is slightly clunky is not aimed at you but rather at the product itself - for @Patrick ConnorPatrick can I suggest that Image frames are improved for future releaes so that can be controlled by proper "styles" ? I think it would really help make AP a much better product

ive created a paragraphs style which is highlighted when select they mage frame - but changes to paragraph options eg "centre justify" don't seem to apply... suggestions very welcome

sigh - the defaults don't seem to be particularly helpful.. I'll keep trying... thanks for your help anyway

I'm really struggling with this - The attacjed screenshot shows the picture frame now in "inline placement mode" not floating ... I used the pointer to move the cursor (blue vertical line) to the empty lien shows in red. Yet the frame is not "in line" and is over existing text ?? The Text Wrap is in "jump" mode and still this is not applying.

thanks - you are correct that lots of additional styles have been picked up I think this is a bug in AP - if you "try new styles option and unset theme again" but don't "click OK" - they don't seem to go away from that big list.... so they accrete as you experiment ..

thanks for trying to help but I'm confused! I DO want all the base text to have the extra leading, so setting it in a paragraph style makes sense.. or am I wrong? I thought character styles were for application to individual works or characters and not entire passages of text? What are the two panel pics you've shown? again - thanks for your patience...

hi 0 I tried the "inline as character" and can't get he picture frame to behave like a centre-justified character ...

for larger projects with 100s of image frames - having styles that apply to picture/image/other frames would be very useful and support the DTO workflow example - I want to use styles so that I can easily change the following features of, perhaps 200 picture frames to which the style has been applies: border colour and width justification - eg centre size - eg % of frame width or absolute inches aspect ratio - set or adjust to image maintaining given width etc..

In previous versions I could use TAB to toggle away the panels and tools - which was useful in full-screen demonstrations or screen recordings .. I could show the full image without tools / UI in the way Now in 1.7 the first TAB takes everything away - great. But TAB again doesn't bring them back and I have to re-enable 3 vows: * view - studio - unhide studio * show tools * show context toolbar and maybe another one when not in full screen mode this toggling is ok , the bug happens when clicking that macOS "green button" window decorator to go full screen ...

is this the wrong way to compose a page? should my page items be outside the layer named "Master A"?

Thanks @carl123 I wonder if AP should make it difficult / impossible to accidentally change the Master Page design from normal pages.. that seems like a good design principles and key to DTP imho.

Hi I'm trying to use Picture Frames and will be needing many (100+) in a document (book). In proper DTP fashion, I'd like to: design only one and then copy it many times, changing the image inside (replace image) have design settings associated with the Frame - eg anchored to text so it flows, centre justified, set size as width with height adjusting to image automatically, size to be set absolutely or as % of frame, border properties eg think grey line around it be able to change these settings in a Style once and have the changes affect all Frame of that type Currently I can't seem to find how to do this. Even copying and pasting a frame seems to place is in the text where the cursor wasn't - and the pinning image shows it linked somewhere other than the cursor position. I'd welcome you thoughts as this is my first big project with AP release. Thanks Image attached shows a "misplaced" picture frame - I can move it manually but that defeats the idea of pasting it into the correct text position in the document.

thanks @carl123 - that worked - bt could you explain what happened and why? that frame isn't a master page frame...?

attached as requested cck2.afpub

I seem to have got stuck with a Picture Frame which I can't delete or "unpin" event hough it appears not to be pinned. Selecting from the Layers menu also shows Delete as greyed out. Restarting Affinity Publisher and reloading the file doesn't help.. I've noticed this frame has no "pin" int the text.

in the style editor under "position and transform" "Leading Override" for the Body style

I am using the latest 1.7.2 in latest macOS Clicking back from the normal pages to the master page and then click in a text frame on the master page... led to an unexpected crash I sent the report to Apple which I hope helps you